From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:51:43 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v9d3nkxk.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0tbrv6w.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29272"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: dimech@gmx.com, abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 21 17:55:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krOSf-0007TZ-Kx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:55:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38618 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krOSe-0002rR-MZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44304) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krORd-0001W3-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:54:01 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:51961) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1krORb-0001Cz-Bi; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:54:01 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.37]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000185B88.000000005FE0D324.00005002; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:53:55 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83k0tbrv6w.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261387 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2020-12-21 19:17]: > > Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:04:53 +0300 > > From: Jean Louis > > Cc: abrochard@gmx.com, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > There are many volunteer organizations where people make a plan of > > action. Volunteer or not, it is not related to planning. Especially if > > one wish to spare the time for developers it is better to have a > > development plan. > > > > It could be a simple list of most important issues to be handled for > > Emacs. > > > > When such list is published maybe more contributors could be drawn to > > it. > > We have that: etc/TODO. But that isn't a "plan" in any reasonable > sense of the word, it's just a list of useful features that we would > like to have at some point. Sometimes, not very frequently, someone > comes and actually takes up one of those jobs. > > But much more frequently, someone comes up with an implemented feature > and submits it for inclusion, and we usually accept it. Since there's > no way to plan that in advance, almost all of Emacs development moves > by such submissions which no one planned in advance. > > Frequent contributors to Emacs probably have their own personal plans, > and work according to them as their time permits. But these personal > plans are almost never coordinated with anyone else. It works amazingly by willingness and contribution. > I don't see how anything different from the above could ever work, as > long as the project continues to be a loosely coupled group of people > with very disparate interests. (I also see nothing wrong in how we do > things, FWIW.) What is in your opinion priority for Emacs?