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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255866 Archived-At: G=C3=B6ktu=C4=9F Kayaalp writes: > On 2020-09-16 04:30 +03, Tim Cross wrote: >> This is the challenge WRT accessibility. For me, with very poor vision >> (legally blind), I find Solarized dark theme to be one of the most >> accessible themes I've used. I have a real problem with 'light' themes a= nd >> need themes with a darker background. Unfortunately, I also have problem= s >> with some 'pink' or 'purple' colours, which just appear blurred to me. > > FWIW I=E2=80=99d say Solarized Dark is far tamer than the light version, = and it > sometimes feels like the light version was never intended seriously by > the colourscheme=E2=80=99s original creator. Observer word "feel" you are using. "Feel" refers to a subjective perception. As I understand original author's page, original colors were "calculated" not intended to work with each other. The goal was to offer same contrast when using both light and dark colors. Whether that amount of contrast is enough, good, likeable etc is probably anyone's personal preferance. >> The solarised themse are good themes and quite popular and I think they >> should definitely be added to the default set of themes included in Emac= s. >> Whether either of them should be the default theme is another question, = but >> it would be good to be able to just turn them on if needed. > > That=E2=80=99s why I think fiddling with defaults is kinda missing the po= int. > We all have what our minds want and bodies need, and the colours of a > program we=E2=80=99ll use a lot, if configurable, is one of the first thi= ngs > we=E2=80=99ll adjust. When I watch coding videos for example, I rarely s= ee > people sticking to even VS Code=E2=80=99s or Sublime Text=E2=80=99s defau= lt > colourschemes, which are dark and =E2=80=98trendy=E2=80=99. So it might = not be worth > the breakage. For that reason Solarized, among other themes can be included and left for people to switch if they prefer.