From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arthur Miller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258292 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: > * Arthur Miller [2020-10-20 16:23]: >> Jean Louis writes: >> >> > * Eli Zaretskii [2020-09-29 17:12]: >> >> > Search documentation is separate feature from looking up any technical >> >> > or special word in glossary >> >> >> >> No, I think it's quite related, especially since the Glossary is part >> >> of the manual. >> > >> > It is related. Let me express myself better, I am proposing a >> > function, something like a long click or key press that is then >> > searching in the glossary. Maybe underlying Lisp functions can be used >> > for that feature. >> >> Would it be possible to make something like Helm occur where I can type >> a term as pattern in minibuffer and then helm will show different hits >> in a buffer; say something like those ambigious names I don't remember >> like dired-file-name-at-point and dired-filename-at-point; or if there >> is a function and local varaible with same name; so that docs for >> all hits are shown in an helm occur buffer, which I can easiry navigate >> when I wish just to skim over what function does? I would prefer that to >> C-h f or C-h v. > > My request to help users define words everywhere in Emacs cannot be > practical. A teaching class or course provider can do that when > necessary. I was thinking that set of definitions could be all updated > in Glossary of the info file, as example, and then various special > words anywhere in Emacs could be quickly defined. > > There is no need for that, and Emacs is in true sense already so much > self-documenting. > > Now what you mentioned with Helm, it already exists when > {M-x helm-mode RET} is activated. > > Then if you try {C-h f} you may see all the functions and narrow > them. There is recommendd helm config, and it includes function > helm-M-x on my right menu key between Alt and Ctrl for anything like M-x > >> Would be cool for docs, but it would be also very cool for a dictionary >> in general; say for pulling a description of a word from different >> dictionaries. > > I have made 2 step into dictionaries. The package Wordnut that uses > Wordnet dictionary works well with Helm automatically. It shows > possible list of words and user can narrow it or even find those > others interesting. > > For dictd versions I think there is no such completion yet, it could > be possible. Cool, thanks for the answer; I'll investigate more. I am really bad to look up what is already there sometimes ...