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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ndame <ndame@protonmail.com>
Subject: Re: "Write a new package" culture instead of patches?
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 21:48:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB452676A267145A712FC1F6F896BB0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83tv0e9x14.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 17 May 2020 22:33:27 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 19:25:50 +0000
>> From: ndame <ndame@protonmail.com>
>> 
>> The obvious answer  is because they solved the problem, it works, available to anyone and they can't be
>> bothered with jumping through additional hoops (paperwork, following the core rules for docs, code
>> formatting, commit message, etc.).
>> 
>> For some people getting their code into the core is a source of pride. For others it's a pointless excercise,
>> because it's trivially available from MELPA which the majority of users use anyway for other packages too.
>
> But MELPA asks you to jump through a different set of hoops, which
> seems to fly in the face of your theory.
>
> IME, many people who "solved the problem" want others to enjoy their
> solution, and that is what gives them the incentive to "jump through
> hoops".
To me I just want to save some cpu cycles :-). Somebody could take and
re-write my ls-switch thingy better, and I would be happy as long as I
don't need to download 3rd party package and overwrite already loaded
software everytime I start Emacs (as long as it does what I need). So
patch in Emacs is to prefer to 3rd party package in my eyes. At least
for very common, often used stuff.

Kind-of green-thinking, saving unnecessary wasted cpu cycles saves
energy as well for me as for the nature. Maybe ridicolous thinking, but
why we load so much stuff into Emacs, just to overwrite it on boot time?
:-)

I think efficiency in computing should be in general taken more
seriously, I think it is morally as important as
privacy/freedom/integrity considerations which FSF/GNU people are
standing for.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-17 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-17 19:25 "Write a new package" culture instead of patches? ndame
2020-05-17 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 19:43   ` ndame
2020-05-18  2:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 19:48   ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2020-05-17 19:58   ` ndame
2020-05-18  5:41     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-18 14:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-18 15:22         ` Yoni Rabkin
2020-05-18 16:33           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-18 17:30             ` Yoni Rabkin
2020-05-18 17:50               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-18 19:17                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-18 19:31                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-18 20:13                 ` Yoni Rabkin
2020-05-18 21:23                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-18 19:35               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-18 20:17                 ` Yoni Rabkin
2020-05-18 20:38                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-20  4:01                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-18 21:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-18 15:57         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-18 16:22           ` Stefan Kangas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-11 16:41 dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-11 17:12 ` 조성빈
2020-05-12  3:16   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12  3:55     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-13  3:57       ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13 12:27         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-14  5:10           ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 13:44             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-17  2:53               ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-17 13:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 13:38                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-17 14:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 18:27                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-17 18:52                         ` "Write a new package" culture instead of patches? Stefan Kangas
2020-05-17 19:42                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-17 22:14                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-17 22:44                               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17 23:13                               ` chad
2020-05-17 23:22                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-18  1:31                                   ` João Távora
2020-05-18  1:55                                   ` Tim Cross
2020-05-19  3:51                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-19  3:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-19  4:33                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-17 21:14                           ` Alan Third
2020-05-17 22:02                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-18  7:58                               ` tomas
2020-05-18 12:08                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-18 12:26                                   ` tomas
2020-05-18 23:07                                     ` arthur miller
2020-05-19  7:27                                       ` tomas
2020-05-17 21:51                           ` Matthias Meulien

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