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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276499 Archived-At: > > * `make-frame-command' (or no longer give it any key) > > * `clone-frame' - frame parameters > > * `clone-frame' - frame parameters and window config > > > > And all of that makes sense on `C-x 5 2', IMO. >=20 > But a new prefix arg could be added to `make-frame-command' > without rebinding its key `C-x 5 2'. Then `make-frame-command' > could call `clone-frame' after typing `C-u C-x 5 2'. It doesn't matter to me how it's done, as long as only one key (`C-x 5 2') is sacrificed for these 3 related behaviors, and as long as we nevertheless provide separate commands, for users who do want to bind different behaviors to different keys. > But I wonder how the prefix arg of `C-u C-x 5 2' would be more > discoverable than the new key `C-x 5 c'? The doc string > of `make-frame-command' could mention both: the prefix arg > that clones the frame, and `clone-frame' bound to `C-x 5 c'. Discoverability is one thing. I don't see it as a big problem in what I proposed. At least as important, I think, is needlessly wasting key bindings. Discoverability is not only about keys; it's about behaviors, and commands that realize them.