From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Question about eval and compile-command Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 21:35:39 +0000 Message-ID: References: <837cqcxxcy.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5v7rj2e.fsf@posteo.net> <87tttfq14n.fsf@igel.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2027"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , Eshel Yaron , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Andreas Schwab , Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 03 23:36:52 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qRg02-0000JJ-Ue for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 23:36:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRfz9-0005gw-MM; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 17:35:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRfz7-0005gY-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 17:35:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mx0a-00069f02.pphosted.com ([205.220.165.32]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qRfz3-0006lG-M0; Thu, 03 Aug 2023 17:35:52 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (m0333521.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com (8.17.1.19/8.17.1.19) with ESMTP id 373LDiY1002032; Thu, 3 Aug 2023 21:35:43 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=corp-2023-03-30; bh=OhDmk/XPyaSquPNXeKo8xHjpqvttOWqNli1bT4zqWWQ=; b=kZzCy3cDZYpogN+E8IoHy6VUujOWsy2ayOOkR4wPsplWjz5NQU7y9iJ5oWLvLSYAOVCm fL9omUggiq1+tbuDjxS0AhMXPaAAkanHrk1TJEC6JfJe6GqmLEbuLOFGmYbO3JlIN4q9 HzZtGtMZwggLGktRjxtSJ8MFeT0/e7kDdsC31NFoMYUViZdqzorWPWuE5boAQIztSnQs v/M4EA9pJO1C13igWHCi5nHSZ+Vt5dUKx5jRGmVklPSXLY8S6Zt6uMOmgg+RakoyRDJ/ XEhC4zmYYTeIr6B9xk3YpysuRSRf5P3jupEfMDquhT+4IugW5pREbh2xhToZeSfDgo7L og== Original-Received: from iadpaimrmta01.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com (iadpaimrmta01.appoci.oracle.com [130.35.100.223]) by mx0b-00069f02.pphosted.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 3s4spcapp7-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 03 Aug 2023 21:35:43 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (iadpaimrmta01.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com [127.0.0.1]) by iadpaimrmta01.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com (8.17.1.19/8.17.1.19) with ESMTP id 373KshVN040722; Thu, 3 Aug 2023 21:35:42 GMT Original-Received: from nam11-bn8-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn8nam11lp2169.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.58.169]) by iadpaimrmta01.imrmtpd1.prodappiadaev1.oraclevcn.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 3s8kpj9knp-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 03 Aug 2023 21:35:42 +0000 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=fzrxjbli/n7ZahPcnyXzs+1O6FkmrlcQMgPLoXZoJv/kzLb2NmvN7xfDXd3BquY7MarVG0ldQGZr3YQBvgbdIDCuNsrz9d4t8ae19HW3ExQ61Osn8BJ4bLTtC9wWIzy5QRuQZRgTOBCd5EYAY2ySYdRqoOTRX5BKdXfLMJYRvAjC2yI0+sbMf6Dq21BSB/yvc13HyAoCYrMNtfjpO63yM1IqnfJyA3YW871RQAVE2oHH1jYcgh5zApGkpJeuNpZ1ssIooOO0w6NXyqb1SKtjaG0qs5owmzKih5jWZcwmpQZJ7+Ft9G9rqhD3uF3R4AdaYcRvRJoVt5eUkgdf0x/krg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=OhDmk/XPyaSquPNXeKo8xHjpqvttOWqNli1bT4zqWWQ=; b=AHhXmD4ztpB5AQAtjUCQmC1IOwzFtj2hb6wnphxe3kVKyqqP85Be5R8Y4S/AvWWqZCmDi67Mge6RdeJgI+It+cqJ5VKTX87QMgoXAy9EyHKNiUyDQoU5+orvQNbP8aFGK614cUDBkVZzt/7yins98mnWjYqnqRha/N/gyqdYwdhZAYhSi+RvVu4D9arj5EkSgp/eL7GQoPl+KIZaHHOkzb8pip50lrYT+ck+lRtsA5WE2MtD9zm3m1BA5vhqp3hZU+Qe2PTjHj5vroeH/lzbP9JCE7SNgTVkWwAQCKvjlAQiQ9wKXMo5ozJOzv6N1UBMs+upBZzMeVRQJEQncIu7lQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=oracle.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=oracle.com; dkim=pass header.d=oracle.com; arc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-oracle-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=OhDmk/XPyaSquPNXeKo8xHjpqvttOWqNli1bT4zqWWQ=; b=nK7I9HIwgJAfQdZWTbQqShsz45hfQDl4pqzbSOkTpG0+lU5ctYmbhVNSTmV2J4+YxX6nY3Mo5/8kigM0PeK1P/aE5Ks0kXzT/7Rp20ocaE3M0eJ7QDyVivltznQOeKWUyMkcFOrdMUyuEpw6wE2B/DzxWpWqj1Hg6ARWU5LrKxc= Original-Received: from SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:37e::19) by SJ0PR10MB4733.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:2ae::12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6652.19; Thu, 3 Aug 2023 21:35:39 +0000 Original-Received: from SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::a0a9:4cbe:dd80:de41]) by SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::a0a9:4cbe:dd80:de41%3]) with mapi id 15.20.6652.020; Thu, 3 Aug 2023 21:35:39 +0000 Thread-Topic: [External] : Re: Question about eval and compile-command Thread-Index: AQHZxk+nqZGGencUvEmz0PGIaRX/D6/ZF8DQ In-Reply-To: <87tttfq14n.fsf@igel.home> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: SJ0PR10MB5488:EE_|SJ0PR10MB4733:EE_ x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: bbe2063f-9a75-48cc-c123-08db946994e7 x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-ms-exchange-antispam-relay: 0 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 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 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(13230028)(376002)(366004)(346002)(39860400002)(136003)(396003)(451199021)(186006)(5660300002)(122000001)(8676002)(38100700002)(41300700001)(8936002)(316002)(6506007)(38070700005)(4326008)(52536014)(64756008)(66476007)(66446008)(66556008)(66946007)(86362001)(76116006)(2906002)(9686003)(558084003)(966005)(7696005)(71200400001)(33656002)(26005)(110136005)(54906003)(44832011)(55016003)(478600001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-chunkcount: 1 x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-0: =?us-ascii?Q?u9YQfvIQY98DuAoFqcHS7Zt7HKmxmQ+et3IILxalhgaq3hwhyW17TsY03Xas?= =?us-ascii?Q?pJYi+ifDTs/Lg9398g0RoDR+Omf8l9V0AsXmmKvTfm3wP5Vb8ADUP3yxFjfw?= =?us-ascii?Q?sWHAdbDKnTb1WREgzVSxWZIs2KQnITQQN1t+a1/ZbWyUx/WTAfGmkUClHJnI?= =?us-ascii?Q?1Pj4Pwb670UTRClNkOUqA6VHOULnMGXsJYXLFXE0eoQ+sdn+l1UydiyC80A8?= =?us-ascii?Q?b8lx9s0A4j27kLCAXCAmDGyOa1L01tRY7Pj3rodwS1OMV/WngL+l0EhKZXVK?= =?us-ascii?Q?KZpl6dYVA5HXSHgogKoxNLkORlvecWUMyQT3PIPuX/vQiMibIRxn3yErj8AL?= =?us-ascii?Q?SM7525ggG1UgETLPZ9SUut4aEc6LbiJ424TC/2iBd43VngSie7+5fP9uwxHL?= =?us-ascii?Q?slrqw597M3rZ3HcZKm1nk4g2Mm8kOfmwaANNM+Fg1RgYQ/YJnLrvuLuww+lf?= =?us-ascii?Q?jg+RAH+UNPqWpw+g6lBBfbTm+XKOLc2HguOx+emNWui0Vllis0e4spnTXpxH?= =?us-ascii?Q?UPxoinrbzU5E0itXG0cLyM38XRIh82ITRVVoZnnDh1NzJPS9XsTYqRm5Pxdo?= =?us-ascii?Q?WtfUqRW+IT0rgtLmVnVJzM8nU9qcS/lMsXSKLE7hPoY+zbgyJfQ+DwXkL5IY?= =?us-ascii?Q?gD X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-ExternalHop-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1 X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-ExternalHop-MessageData-0: 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 UN38gu14D531aBl88d2VxGYTzwMih4yOcZJV6LPcqppAWCeWXYI0r+tcVZqc0UOxNxoBRugdI+g08s+WtBHXq4qAtDxgr08ucy X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: bbe2063f-9a75-48cc-c123-08db946994e7 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 03 Aug 2023 21:35:39.3007 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: ZsrDrmJN3IL1kJTTQInrAhmv44Z/DZ11jlVd5Jc3nBvHWc1hhQFnlht85WeHCU/VxcqFTrzVQtFK8jJY/GH8iA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SJ0PR10MB4733 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.267,Aquarius:18.0.957,Hydra:6.0.591,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2023-08-03_22,2023-08-03_01,2023-05-22_02 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=725 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2306200000 definitions=main-2308030194 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: tPhdsmFXZtJ_mH_sVNrrJmWgC5iUP_Ku X-Proofpoint-GUID: tPhdsmFXZtJ_mH_sVNrrJmWgC5iUP_Ku Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.220.165.32; envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=mx0a-00069f02.pphosted.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308265 Archived-At: > > In retrospect, shouldn't the type be be a string or a function? >=20 > Not a function, but a form. A string is a form too... A Lisp object that is intended for evaluation is called a "form" https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Intro-Eval.html