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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294451 Archived-At: > If read-char-from-minibuffer is supposed to return a single character, > it cannot return nil (or anything else that indicates empty input). > If you make such a change, expect it to break many use cases > elsewhere. > > To me, the above says that read-char-from-minibuffer is not the right > tool for this job. +1. (IMO it's not the right tool for very many jobs, if any.)