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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321029 Archived-At: > > In my view, having considered this discussion in full, the benefits of > > adding these key bindings, favored by several developers, therefore > > outweigh the perceived drawbacks. >=20 > That "perceived" there is a mistake. The drawbacks > are real. At the very least, such usage is liable > to provoke a long, withering post from Drew Adams. ;-) Stick to your own withering words, please. ;-) No, I had no intention to reply to Stefan's post. If that's the decision, so be it. Not the best approach, IMO, but it's decided.=20 > I think I would agree with the somebody else that > suggested enabling these keys by a minor mode. I'm that somebody else, I guess, or at least one of them. I also suggested a user option (opt in). Both have been typical approaches used in the past.