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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Question about completion behavior
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 02:23:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB548847DAA1D018B871178B9AF30F9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220313233800.44vfuwjje6wgsdm2@Ergus>

> Man, please relax...

Oh, I'm relaxed.  Believe me, Man. ;-)

> The user experience is exactly the same than before.  Just that now
> there is an option to change, suppress or/and get a counter with the
> total number of completions

I already welcomed that, in a previous message.
It's helpful to tell users how many completions
there are.

(I suggested that the *Completions* mode-line
might be a better place for it.)

> where there was before just a bit superfluous
> hard-coded message: "Possible completions are:"
> 
> That's it. Everything else is exactly the same.

My message wasn't about your addition of the
number of matches at the top of *Completions*
(when there _are_ matches).

> >> > Why would we ever say "0 possible completions"?
> >> > Why bother with "possible"?  We never show
> >> > IMpossible completions, do we?
> >> >
> >> > When there are no matches we just tell users
> >> > there's no match.  Always have.  Simple.
> >
> >And your answer is?
> 
> Because the original message was: "Possible
> completions are:" and it has been there since
> ever without hearing your complains about that
> the completions are not IMpossible.

I don't see "Possible completions are:" when there
are no completions.  What I see is that window
*Completions* is removed when you try to complete
a pattern that has no matches.

(Granted, I'm looking at the latest release, 27.2,
not any new work-in-progress.  But you say this
thing I don't see has been there forever, so I'm
perplexed.  We must not be smoking the same thing.)

My point was that, compared to the vanilla, age-old
behavior of removing the *Completions* window when
you try to match an unmatchable pattern, a proposed
new behavior of continuing to show *Completions*,
but with a message at the top saying "0 possible
completions" (or any other wording of that), sounds
like a step backward, to me.  That's all.  Just one
opinion.

(And I don't even use the vanilla *Completions*
behavior.  I just happen to care about Emacs beyond
my own use of it.)

> I don't care anything about one word at all and if
> the user doesn't like the word or you want to put
> there "Drews completions are:", at least now
> you have an option to customize it as you prefer...

I don't want to put anything there.  I'm asking why
we'd want to show a buffer that lists no completions,
instead of just removing that window.  I'm asking
why that would be an improvement - or even a good
option to offer.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-14  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220309001013.gxyh2uasbuxiz6ww.ref@Ergus>
2022-03-09  0:10 ` Question about completion behavior Ergus
2022-03-09  0:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-09  1:46     ` Ergus
2022-03-09  3:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-09  3:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-09 10:11           ` Ergus
2022-03-09 11:46             ` Ergus
2022-03-09 13:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-09 13:46                 ` Po Lu
2022-03-09 17:32                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-03-09 17:41                     ` Ergus
2022-03-10  0:42                     ` Po Lu
2022-03-10 10:21                       ` Ergus
2022-03-10 11:15                         ` Po Lu
2022-03-10 14:03                           ` Ergus
2022-03-10 18:50                             ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-10 22:35                               ` Ergus
2022-03-12 18:31                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-13 14:58                                   ` Ergus
2022-03-12  0:17                               ` Ergus
2022-03-12 18:34                                 ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-13 11:21                                   ` Ergus
2022-03-13 17:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-03-13 18:50                                       ` Ergus
2022-03-13 18:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-13 19:49                                           ` Ergus
2022-03-13 20:48                                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-03-13 21:15                                         ` Ergus
2022-03-13 23:14                                           ` Drew Adams
2022-03-13 23:38                                             ` Ergus
2022-03-14  2:23                                               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-03-12 20:25                             ` Drew Adams
2022-03-09 14:30                 ` Ergus
2022-03-09 16:14                   ` [PATCH] " Ergus
2022-03-09 16:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-09 13:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-09 14:22               ` Ergus

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