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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277384 Archived-At: > I sadly didn't follow the thread from the beginning > (because the subject wasn't changed), but was the > actual issue with using kbd discussed somewhere you > could point me to? +1. I asked yesterday, and was summarily rebuked, and the request ignored. Hope you have better luck. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-10/msg01343.html