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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275823 Archived-At: > The "technical hurdle" of finding a good binding > isn't the place to start. The place to start is > to wait for users to use and bind it, and then > see how much a default binding would make sense. >=20 > Here lies chaos. >=20 > For coherent design, and logical keybindings, one cannot wait until > users have bound a key. It is a good indication of what might be > used, but not what might make sense in the grand picture. There may not be a reason to always wait - agreed. ("One cannot wait" ever is clearly wrong, though.) It doesn't follow that every command should get a default key binding. And how new the redo command is isn't really the question, on its own. The question really should be how useful the command is, in practice: How much are users using it, and how important would it be for it to have a default binding?