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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291501 Archived-At: This is all a fundamental problem with the design, which is to always fall back from one style to another continuing to try to find a completion. What's needed is to easily be able to choose one or another style - during completion. It's important to be able to know whether a given style matches a candidate. You may or you may not want to try another style if the matches for one style don't give you what you want/expect. Better than that (being able to choose one style at a time, on the fly) is to let you choose (again, during completion) one or another such fallback=20 list of styles. Of course, that includes the case of singleton fallback lists: one style at a time. I argued for this decades ago. And it's what Icicles offers. The choice to go with just one list of fallback styles (per invocation or category of completion) is, I think, based on the assumption that you always want to maximize the possibility of getting a match. And that's far from the case, in many contexts.