From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>,
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: C-o
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:41:55 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488211E6E29BB811C7159FAF3DC2@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
> >>> What do you use it for?
> > I'm also curious to know how people use `C-o`, which I never ever use.
I wasn't going to chime in on this thread...
My use of `C-o' is, well, peculiar. I almost
don't use it.
I keep its default binding, which I never use
it for. I use it only to try/test a command
I want to temporarily bind to a repeatable,
simple key that won't interfere with bindings
I really do use. I do this (fairly often):
M-x global-set-key RET C-o <some command
I want to use temporarily, perhaps repeatedly
(by just holding it down)> RET
Yeah, I know, seems a waste of such a simple,
repeatable key. But it's precisely the
uselessness to me of that binding that keeps
the key free for me mentally. In effect, I've
unconsciously tossed it onto the No-Default
Free List.
Needless to say, I do NOT want its default
binding to be changed to some command that's
useful but not repeatable.
I dread this thread, given that it has the
possibility that Emacs will change the useless
binding of `C-o' to some command that's useful
but not repeatable. (Repeatable keys not at
the end of a prefix key are indeed rare).
IOW, it's a bad default binding, but therein
lies its usefulness: it could be worse.
[ The only reasonable alternative to binding a
simple repeatable key to a repeatable command
is to bind it as a prefix key. That's what
we've done for keys such as `C-x'. That's
OK. But to bind a simple repeatable key to a
command that, e.g., prompts for something is
a mortal sin. Thou Shalt Not Waste. ]
- Church of Emacs
I was content to let this sleeping dog lie.
Now that it's awakened, Bonjour les dégats...
next reply other threads:[~2024-07-02 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-02 15:41 Drew Adams [this message]
2024-07-02 15:47 ` C-o Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 17:18 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-02 17:52 ` C-o Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 18:56 ` [External] : C-o Drew Adams
2024-07-02 22:12 ` C-o Daniel Colascione
2024-07-03 1:49 ` C-o Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 18:27 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 16:20 ` C-o Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-08-21 19:10 Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Daniel Colascione
2021-08-22 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-21 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-21 20:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-26 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-01 1:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-01 10:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 11:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 21:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 22:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 1:00 ` Po Lu
2024-07-02 3:26 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 4:34 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 5:59 ` C-o Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 6:23 ` C-o Visuwesh
2024-07-02 12:51 ` C-o Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 13:06 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 13:39 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-03 9:24 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-03 11:33 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-03 12:15 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o T.V Raman
2024-07-02 15:36 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-02 22:27 ` C-o Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-02 22:44 ` C-o Jeremy Bryant
2024-07-03 10:07 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Per Starbäck
2024-07-03 12:48 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 16:24 ` C-o Yuri Khan
2024-07-03 16:32 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-05 4:14 ` C-o Richard Stallman
2024-07-05 4:28 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 19:13 ` C-o Bob Rogers
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