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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273931 Archived-At: > > I don't see Emacs moving `C-x' >=20 > That was not under discussion. It's not? I think one of the questions raised in the discussion is whether (and how) to let users start with a "profile" (or just change the default behavior) that gives them a `C-x' that they're used to - or at least similar, such as what `kill-region' does. > Here's what you wrote: >=20 > > If we started Emacs from a clean slate today, > > we would obviously have put kill-region on C-x. >=20 > Would we? Maybe, maybe not. > Pro: Killing text is similar to cutting text. > Con: It's not the same thing. The `kill-ring' > is not what non-emacsers are used to. Exactly. I raised the _question_. And I pointed out that, though similar, the two are not the same. So again, if we started Emacs from scratch today, is it really obvious that we would put `kill-region' on `C-x'? To me, that's not so obvious - it's an open question (but counter-factual, since we're not starting from a clean slate today).