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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263562 Archived-At: > > So I think I would be against using C-=3D for this command. > I know of at least one (MELPA) package that recommend this key: > So I'd agree that this is a reasonable objection. FWIW, I use `C-=3D' as a prefix key for comparison commands: C-=3D b ediff-buffers C-=3D d diff C-=3D e .. C-=3D f ediff-files C-=3D w compare-windows-repeat Please do NOT sacrifice ANY new key for what's proposed. If the aim is "a transient version of `other-window'" then just use `C-x o'. Anyone who prefers the old, non-repeatable version can rebind to that. Why on earth would we want to sacrifice two keys by default: one for repeatable `other-window' and one for non-repeatable? Now, if people can't agree to bind repeatable by default, OK; no problem. Or if we can't agree about just what repeatable `other-window' should do, OK. But default bindings for both repeatable and non-repeatable would be a ridiculous waste (IMHO). ___ FWIW, there are other Emacs keys that could usefully be made repeatable. I.e., no need for new keys, just replace the binding to the non-repeatable command by a repeatable one. E.g., I've long used repeatable `C-a' and `C-e'. I wouldn't be without them. `C-a' repeated just goes to the end of the next line... `C-e' repeated goes to the beginning of the previous line... Not a big deal. But (IMHO) hugely useful. Just as useful, for example, as `C-n' and `C-p'.