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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>,
	Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Always-true predicate?
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 22:25:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB4474D992434F23C4DFE35FF8F3869@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874kiaxxbs.fsf@iki.fi>

> Could you please make it optional? So that those who want the new
> behaviour of (apply nil) can get it by doing something like:
> 
>     M-x customize-variable RET apply-nil-will-not-segfault-anymore RET
> 
> There are many users and third-party packages which depend on the old
> behaviour. I'll show you stats in a minute...
> 
> Seriously: I remember one case when I tried to find CONSTANTLY or
> similar but failed. I wrote some LAMBDA form. No big deal.

Agreed, no big deal.
___

But if it's decided to do this, then clearly a function
that accepts an optional arg and just returns that arg
is preferable to either one that always returns `t' or
one that requires (instead of just accepts) an arg.

And the name `constantly' has a connotation of
repetition, which isn't relevant.  This is essentially
just the SKI logical combinator `K'.  Call it `constant'
or some such, perhaps.

OTOH, with Lisp, if the argument can return different
values when its evaluated then this really isn't a
constant-returning function.
___

But again, I agree with Teemu: YAGNI.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17 12:01 Always-true predicate? Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 12:31 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-17 12:40   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 16:59     ` Barry Fishman
2021-02-19 15:24   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 13:16 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-17 18:56   ` Pip Cet
2021-02-17 19:19     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 19:31       ` Pip Cet
2021-02-17 19:37         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:18           ` Teemu Likonen
2021-02-17 22:25             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-02-17 23:04               ` [External] : " Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-17 23:13                 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 23:01             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19 11:27               ` Pip Cet
2021-02-19 15:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19 19:04                   ` Pip Cet
2021-02-19 20:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20  9:40                       ` Pip Cet
2021-02-20 13:58                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19  5:39 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-19  8:52   ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19  9:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:52       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-19 13:00         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 13:40           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 14:05               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 18:04                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-19 14:42             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 12:47               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 12:49                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 14:20                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:55                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 15:05                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 15:21                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-21 12:50                             ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-21 13:04                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 15:09           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-19 15:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 18:17               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-19 18:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22  5:02       ` chad
2021-02-22 15:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 23:07           ` chad
2021-02-21  6:12     ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 15:12       ` Eli Zaretskii

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