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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265279 Archived-At: > I almost never use "M-x customize" for variables, as set-variable is > so much easier and faster. I expect many veteran users do the same. `M-x customize-set-variable' is better, as `set-variable' doesn't know/care about :set etc. ___ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-11/msg00685.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-12/msg00048.html