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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
	Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>,
	 Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 23:31:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB4474A3DD1801564C1EB06F60F35F9@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6db7347-5834-42a1-2a02-4c52f6f733bf@yandex.ru>

> > If not, just what do you think is needed, and why?
> 
> Check out elisp--company-kind, for example. And other 
> :company-* stuff in elisp-completion-at-point.

No thanks.  Either you'll say what you think is needed
or you won't.  That's up to you.

I've said what I wanted to about this.  You apparently
agree that, in general, the completion apparatus should
not be concerned with presentation.  It shouldn't, in
general, need to encode info to support presentation.  
To implement presentation features, we should not need,
in general, to bake some settings into the completion
apparatus ahead of time (e.g. when defining the "table").

You've agreed, I think, that there can be exceptions to
this general rule.

It's the general rule I wanted to get across.  Let's
not design the completion table etc. so it becomes our
means to encode presentation or info for presentation.

We've already gone down that road for completion-styles
and sorting.  IMO that was a mistake.  It's better to
be able to control such things more flexibly, from
anywhere, on the fly, instead of pretty much setting
them once and for all for a given call to, say,
`completing-read'.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-25 13:32 [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 19:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-25 19:47   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 21:50     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-25 22:10       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 22:40         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-25 22:58           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-26  4:51             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-04-27 16:53               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-28  6:18                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-04-25 23:33           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-26 10:01             ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-26 13:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-27  1:46             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-27  1:59               ` tumashu
2021-04-27  2:45                 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-27 15:47                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-27  3:41               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-28  0:08                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-28  3:21                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-25 19:38 ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH) Daniel Mendler
2021-04-25 20:45   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25 21:26     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 16:20   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 16:52     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 17:07     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-29 17:13       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 22:54         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 23:55           ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 2) Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30  9:00             ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30 17:01               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-30 18:11                 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30 18:30                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-01 19:57                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-02  0:43                       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02  7:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-02 11:01                           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-30 16:51             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-30 18:13               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-01 19:54                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-02  0:32                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02 21:38                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-07 17:03                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-07 17:55                         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-08  6:24                           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-08  8:45                             ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 4) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-08  9:10                               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-09 17:59                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 18:50                                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-09 18:56                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-09 19:11                                       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-10 20:47                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11  7:51                                       ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 5) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-11 17:59                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-08 13:15                         ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 2) Stefan Monnier
2021-05-09 18:05                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 18:37                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 18:06                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 18:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 18:58                                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-11 19:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 19:46                                       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-11 19:59                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-11 20:30                                           ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 6) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-13 10:32                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-13 11:45                                               ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 7) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-20  9:39                                                 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-20 17:53                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-20 18:51                                                     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 17:09     ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH) Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 17:16       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-29 17:55         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 18:31           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-29 20:25             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 22:15               ` Drew Adams
2021-04-29 22:28                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-29 23:31                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-04-29 19:21           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02 14:29   ` [PATCH] `completing-read`: Add `group-function` support to completion metadata (REVISED PATCH VERSION 3) Daniel Mendler
2021-05-02 21:49     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-03 14:40       ` Daniel Mendler

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