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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269098 Archived-At: Apologies for not following this thread. It seems to be quite wide in its scope (but I could easily just be misunderstanding). Is there really a focus on somehow changing just `M-e' (edit the search pattern, with searching suspended while doing that)? Somehow I've gotten the impression that much more seems to be under discussion (i.e., at stake). What really is the _concrete problem_ that you're trying to solve, for which you think (IIUC) that Isearch should use the minibuffer (aside from the current uses it makes of the minibuffer, which are really outside searching)? Somehow, this kinda feels like an X-Y problem. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/66377/what-is-the-xy-problem And the OP seems to say (again, IIUC) that though he's used Isearch for years he's never really understood the C-g behavior (and DEL perhaps). Is there an Isearch problem or a learning/doc problem? ___ Those are just comments/questions from impressions I've had while perusing some of the posts in the thread. They might reflect gross misunderstanding (or rather, lack of understanding) of what the problem and the proposed solution really are. Here, at least, is a concrete question: If the minibuffer becomes the buffer that will be current when using Isearch (I thought I saw that as a proposal), will it still be possible to use Isearch in the minibuffer, i.e., to search text in the minibuffer, when the minibuffer is being used normally (not by Isearch)? That's important, IMO: being able to use Isearch in any minibuffer, to search its text.