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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Improvement proposals for `completing-read'
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:22:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB44747649030392968409A802F3739@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YHA4P3NQSVE6Fnt/@protected.localdomain>

> > > One such case is when you 
> > > browse the history itself using `completing-read`,
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > but this is certainly a very narrow case.
> >
> > Why is it even a use case?  Why disable history when
> > `completing-read' against the history?  Maybe you
> > have a good reason - what is it?
> 
> This way, I am browsing ANY history from minibuffer:
> (completing-read "Choose: " '("Jane" "Joe") nil nil nil nil)
> 
> This way, though the documentation does not say something about
> it, but I do not see any history and I do not need to have
> history variable, but function thinks there is history:
> (completing-read "Choose: " '("Jane" "Joe") nil nil nil t)
> 
> So it is effectively "disabled".
> 
> Maybe it was meant here to disable the general minibuffer
> history, but that is obviously easy to do. Other way to disable
> would be to encompass `completing-read' with one `let':
> 
> (let ((history))
>   (completing-read "Choose: " '("Jane" "Joe") nil nil nil 'history))
> 
> Or simply to disable history variable in the program when necessary.

None of what you wrote has to do with what Daniel
posited: use of `completing-read' with a history
list providing the completion candidates.  (That's
at least what I understood him to mean.)  E.g.,

(completing-read "Choose from file-name input history: "
                 file-name-history)

(completing-read "Choose from regexp input history: "
                 regexp-history)

(completing-read "Choose from input history: "
                 minibuffer-history)

I think Daniel was suggesting that it makes sense
in all such cases to use `t' for the HIST arg.  E.g.:

(completing-read "Choose from input history: "
                 minibuffer-history nil nil nil t)

I'm guessing his point would be that without `t'
traversing the history (e.g. with `M-p' or `M-r')
would be a redundant way to get to a completion
candidate, which it would be.

But an alternative way to get to a candidate isn't
a bad thing.

And if the REQUIRE arg is nil then it can even be
useful to use a _different_ history for the HISTORY
arg from that used for the COLLECTION arg.

(Even if REQUIRE is non-nil that might sometimes
be useful - it lets you use `M-p' or `M-r' to get
to candidates that are in both histories.)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-09 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-07 11:16 Improvement proposals for `completing-read' Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-07 17:20   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-07 19:46     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 21:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08  9:01         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 14:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 15:26             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-08 15:47               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 17:31               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 15:37             ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 17:22               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-08 18:22                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 18:48                   ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08 19:03                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 19:32                       ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08 17:30               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 17:57                 ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 18:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-08 19:15                     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 19:20               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 19:46                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-08 20:12                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 21:12                     ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08 22:37                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09  0:03                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09  2:09                         ` Using more and/or better icons in Emacs Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09  3:09                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-04-09  3:35                           ` chad
2021-04-09 12:06                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09  7:41                           ` Yuri Khan
2021-04-09  9:59                             ` tomas
2021-04-09 11:15                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 11:19                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 12:22                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09 12:29                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 17:46                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-09 18:45                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 19:30                                   ` Alan Third
2021-04-09 19:40                                     ` Alan Third
2021-04-09 22:38                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-10  0:56                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10  1:43                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10  9:12                                           ` Alan Third
2021-04-10 10:56                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10 13:48                                               ` Alan Third
2021-04-12 19:39                                                 ` Alan Third
2021-04-13  1:25                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-13  7:35                                                     ` Alan Third
2021-04-13 10:39                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-13 19:50                                                         ` Alan Third
2021-04-13 22:44                                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-14  6:46                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-15 15:37                                                             ` Alan Third
2021-04-15 15:50                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-15 17:10                                                                 ` Alan Third
2021-04-11 21:57                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-09 23:16                                   ` Alan Third
2021-04-10  0:55                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-10  7:23                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10  9:17                                         ` Alan Third
2021-04-10  9:25                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-08 17:22             ` [External] : Re: Improvement proposals for `completing-read' Drew Adams
2021-04-08 18:33               ` Drew Adams
2021-04-07 23:11       ` Drew Adams
2021-04-08  7:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-07 18:39 ` Jean Louis
2021-04-07 19:49   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 22:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08  8:37   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 20:44     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-08 21:30       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-10  2:21         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-10  9:18           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-11  0:51             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-11 13:08               ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-12  0:32                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-12  0:40                   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-12 10:47                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-12 11:04                       ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-14  0:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-14 10:44                           ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-07 23:49 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-08  9:29   ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-08 17:19     ` Drew Adams
2021-04-09 11:19       ` Jean Louis
2021-04-09 11:47         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-04-09 17:22         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-04-09 17:41           ` Daniel Mendler

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