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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: POLL: make C-x o transient
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 19:12:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB447473B9E3303FA1B5184ACCF3B99@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvft2juaes.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> > It is to bind C-= to the existing "repeat" command, 
> 
> FWIW, I agree that `repeat` deserves a single-key bindings.
> But I don't think `C-=` can be it, and I don't have a counter-offer.

I'm probably going to be an outlier on this,
as well.

1. Why is it important to save one keystroke,
just to initiate repetition?

What's important is to be able to repeat
using a simple, single keystroke.  But to
initiate repetition it's not important to
use a single keystroke (IMO).

I don't like to see keys get appropriated
by Emacs as defaults.  I think that `C-x z'
is a fine way to initiate repetition.  I
don't want to see any new key, `C-=' or
another, "wasted" this way.

2. That said, for _specific commands_,
which are already bound to keys, I think
it's very helpful for some such commands
to themselves be repeatable.

That's different from a general key to
repeat the last command (now `C-x z').


A priori therefore, my vote is for:

1. Keeping the general repeat-last-whatever
   on a prefix key.  IOW, stick with `C-x z'
   or similar.

2. Make more single-use commands, themselves,
   repeatable.  That is, commands that are
   already bound by default.

   I gave, as one example, repeatable `C-a'
   and `C-e'.

Doing that wastes/dedicates no additional
keys by default.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-29 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-24  6:12 POLL: make C-x o transient Zhiwei Chen
2021-01-24 11:32 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-01-24 14:40   ` andrés ramírez
2021-01-25  5:52 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 12:21   ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-01-26  6:02     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-25 15:30   ` aitor
2021-01-25 16:38     ` Philip K.
2021-01-25 17:23     ` Colin Baxter
2021-01-26  5:59     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 10:44       ` Olivier Certner
2021-01-26 23:38         ` Sean Whitton
2021-01-27  6:51           ` Colin Baxter
2021-01-25 15:47   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-01-25 17:01   ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-25 17:21     ` Omar Polo
2021-01-27 17:55     ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-28  7:46       ` Philip K.
2021-01-28  8:50         ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-28  9:40       ` martin rudalics
2021-01-28 18:43         ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-28 19:13           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-28 20:34             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-01-28 21:27               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-28 21:58             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-01-28 23:19               ` Philip K.
2021-01-29  0:03                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-01-29  2:43                   ` chad
2021-01-29 19:11                     ` Drew Adams
2021-01-30  5:58                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-01 19:50                       ` chad
2021-02-02 21:11                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-05  5:48                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-05  8:37                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-05  8:58                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-05  9:34                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-06 19:25                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-06 20:27                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-06 21:30                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-06 23:22                                         ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-07 18:54                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-03  5:51                         ` [External] : " Richard Stallman
2021-02-03 20:38                           ` chad
2021-02-04  5:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-04 19:24                               ` chad
2021-01-29  7:54                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-29 13:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-29 16:56                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-29 19:12                       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-01-30 14:13                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-30 20:47                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-01-31  1:06                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-31 17:39                               ` Drew Adams
2021-01-31 23:12                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-31 23:53                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-01  6:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-30 14:13                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-01 17:09               ` Yuan Fu
2021-01-29  2:38             ` chad
2021-01-29  8:44               ` Juri Linkov
2021-01-25 17:27   ` Jose E. Marchesi
2021-01-25 21:12 ` Sean Whitton
2021-01-27 21:46 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-01-31  7:06 ` Teemu Likonen
2021-01-31 17:32   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-01-31 17:49     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-01-31 18:37       ` Drew Adams
2021-01-31 18:10   ` Howard Melman
2021-02-01 17:21   ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-02 19:44     ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-03 17:20       ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-08  7:13 ` Jefferson Carpenter
2021-02-09  6:05   ` Richard Stallman

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