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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266836 Archived-At: > > Obviously, I'm not proposing this just to leave the that key > > unused. >=20 > Oh, but I wish that _were_ the proposal... Unused AND > with an intention not to bind it by default at all. >=20 > Seeing that to get sensible behaviour in Emacs is to re-bind it, why > can't you do the same and ignore whatever it is bound too? As a user, of course I can. I'm talking about 3rd-party code. And sure, 3rd-party code can likewise trample on Emacs default bindings. But that's asking for trouble. I don't think we want to _encourage_ that. But by binding more and more keys by default, Emacs dev does indeed risk encouraging just that - a wild free-for-all.