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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264802 Archived-At: > Like I said before: instead of removing what > seems irrelevant, make them appear after the > relevant parts. Otherwise we will lose > information when we guess wrong (which is an > easy mistake to make, since the assumption > that the user always wants only the commands > from the current major mode is not always true). I agree. (But I would say less relevant, not irrelevant. Even a command you can't invoke can be relevant for use by `M-x', especially - but not only - with a completion framework that lets `M-x' do more than just invoke.) FWIW - The approach you describe is similar to the one taken for key completion in library keysee.el or Icicles. You can sort by any of these orders: * By key name alphabetically, prefix keys first * By key name alphabetically, local keys first * By command name alphabetically * Off - no sorting And with either library sortie.el or Icicles you can hit a key (`C-,' by default) to cycle during completion among whatever sort orders are available. ___ https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/KeySee https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Sortie https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Icicles_-_Key_Completion