From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tramp changelog entries messes up lisp/ChangeLog Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:51:55 +0200 (IST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87hebi8hl4.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044510754 10635 80.91.224.249 (6 Feb 2003 05:52:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 05:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18gewv-0002jl-00 for ; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 06:51:49 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18gf5q-0002v8-00 for ; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:01:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18geyq-00035M-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:53:48 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18geyT-00034q-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:53:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18gexx-0002kS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:52:54 -0500 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18gext-0002Zp-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 00:52:49 -0500 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06874; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:51:55 +0200 (IST) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: Alex Schroeder In-Reply-To: <87hebi8hl4.fsf@emacswiki.org> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11407 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11407 On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Alex Schroeder wrote: > storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > > > I would suggest creating a new lisp/net/tramp/ directory and move > > the tramp*.el files there, and create a separate ChangeLog file there. > > I suppose it will then make sense to move all of the tramp related > > changelog entries from lisp/ChangeLog to lisp/net/tramp/ChangeLog. > > But will you do this for every package that is maintained externally? Probably not. Which means maintainers of such packages should retag their entries with the check-in date. Perhaps we should have a command to do that automatically on a region of a ChangeLog. (Maybe there already is such a command, I didn't check.) > And even if the order is wrong -- when exactly will that confuse us? I frequently browse ChangeLog files to find out what was the sequence of changes, when some change breaks some feature. So I think the dates should be in monotonous order, like they have been until now. Also, it is confusing if the dates in CVS and in the change log are very different. > I only ever use ChangeLog entries when I want to answer questions like > "what where the recent changes related to file/variable/function foo" > -- and for that, there need only be a very rough ordering of items. Some changes interact, you know.