From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 21.2.90 pretest, 21.3, 21.4... Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:00:16 +0200 (IST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200211052037.gA5KbGR30714@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036564491 29184 80.91.224.249 (6 Nov 2002 06:34:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 189Jm5-0007aY-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:34:49 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 189JuS-0001Lt-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:43:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 189JgD-0007bi-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 01:28:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 189JEj-0007HL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 01:00:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 189JEf-00076z-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 01:00:20 -0500 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 189JEe-0006xA-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 01:00:16 -0500 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01138; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:00:16 +0200 (IST) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: <200211052037.gA5KbGR30714@rum.cs.yale.edu> Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9162 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9162 On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Even if we feature freeze it now, 21.4 will not be out before the end > > > of 2003. I.e. long after 21.3. > > > > If you suggest to have two pretests running in parallel, I don't think > > we can manage that with the available resources. > > feature-freeze != pretest. Well, perhaps I misunderstood: what good is it to freeze the trunk unless we start a pretest? > But for 21.3, if it had been forked from the trunk rather than from RC could > have been overall just as stable as 21.3 is. IIRC, it was a judgement call, and at the time it sounded like we could have 21.3 out the door in less than a month. Given that assumption, it's not clear to me whether the decision was wrong. (To make it perfectly clear, the decision was not mine.) > So I just think that all releases should be forked from the trunk > rather than from a previous release branch. I could agree with that in principle. But in reality, it could happen that the first release you make from the branch is not stable enough, and that in the meantime the trunk got several new significant changes that make it inappropriate for the next release.