From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 21.2.90 pretest, 21.3, 21.4... Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:58:56 +0200 (IST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20021104170119.BAB6.LEKTU@terra.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036476589 28329 80.91.224.249 (5 Nov 2002 06:09:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 188wuH-0007Mb-00 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 07:09:45 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 188x29-0002EZ-00 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 07:17:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188wtG-0002fA-00; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 01:08:42 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188wjt-0001UD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:59:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 188wjq-0001TW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:59:00 -0500 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188wjp-0001TP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:58:57 -0500 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA16552; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:58:56 +0200 (IST) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: <20021104170119.BAB6.LEKTU@terra.es> Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9126 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9126 On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > Still, I wonder if we should try to pack less punch in each release, and > release a bit faster than we're doing today. As someone who was involved in pretest releases up until 21.2.90, I can assure you that the schedule for the releases was not determined by the desire to put ``more punch'', but simply by the availability of free time to make the pretests and solve bugs reported by the pretesters. > Also, it's tough trying to evangelize people when I know that some > much-appreciated features are just in the HEAD and won't see the light > in a year or two... As long as we keep the scheme whereby bug-fix releases precede the next development release, the time until the next release from HEAD is largely determined by the amount of bugs we deem severe enough to fix, and the available resources to fix them. The only way to speed that up is to have more people working on the release branch. > Of course, I don't know what we should do, other than attracting more > people to Emacs development. Perhaps a tentative schedule like the one > in GCC would be a first step, but I'm not sure. Personally, I think it'd be a sad day when the quality of the released Emacs versions will be anywhere near GCC's. Since GCC 3.0, I don't think there was a released version without a couple of major bugs. With all its limitations, I'd vote for what we have now in Emacs any time.