From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:26:35 +0300 (IDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1023773430 16727 127.0.0.1 (11 Jun 2002 05:30:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17HeEg-0004Lg-00 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:30:30 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Hebr-0005I5-00 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:54:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17HeEN-0001bI-00; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17HeDG-0001X7-00 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA02982; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:26:35 +0300 (IDT) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: "Robert J. Chassell" In-Reply-To: Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4738 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4738 On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Robert J. Chassell wrote: > storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes > > You have never been able to copy what's in the mode-line. > > That is very true. This means I cannot copy a file name for Info. Emacs is replete with text you cannot copy, and so do other applications. IMHO, the need for copying the header line is greatly exaggerated in this thread. As much as you never needed to copy the mode line, I (and probably many others) never needed to copy the Info header line. FWIW, I don't find much value in telling users to go to (info)Help or some such: I think this cryptic notation alienates them to Info rather than helps them to embrace it. But I digress. > For example, how can you > efficiently discuss variations to the `Options' menu without being > able to quote what you have?) If we want to be able to copy menus (and I agree it could be a useful feature), we should add a command that creates a text representation of a menu structure. But it would be IMHO absurd to ask that M-w on the menu item would produce that effect: users understand that menus are not normal buffer text, so they won't be surprised by the need to type something special to copy a menu. The same holds for a header line, which is a special part of the Emacs frame, not part of buffer text.