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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Insert Euro symbol
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:06:47 +0300 (IDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.1020502190016.27891H@is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vafhelqadrp.fsf@INBOX.auto.emacs.devel.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>


On Thu, 2 May 2002, Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?= wrote:

> Emacs by default provides the very convenient C-x 8 series of
> keybindings.  For me, personally, it is in some cases preferable to
> using input methods: I use german-prefix as an input method and have
> gotten used to ' being a regular self-inserting key, so switching to
> latin-1-prefix won't make me happy.  Nevertheless, I sometimes want
> to write é or à or the like.  For this, C-x 8 is convenient.

Why not augment the existing input methods to do what you find convenient 
in C-x 8, or make a new input method, if augmenting existing ones is 
impractical?

I don't think we should extend C-x 8, since it's a legacy ``input 
method'' which predates Leim.  We now have Leim and the native input 
methods provided by the various keyboards/windowing systems (like XIM, 
for example).  It doesn't sound like a good idea to have yet another, 3rd 
way of producing non-ASCII characters.  C-x 8 should be supported for 
back compatibility, but do we really want to extend it?

> Do you think that there should be a keybinding of some sort to insert
> the Euro character?  (A keybinding that is not in an input method.)

I think it should be possible to insert the Euro with an input method.  
People who don't use input methods can use the keystrokes their keyboard 
supports for that.

> When Emacs uses Unicode internally, the distinction
> will be irrelevant I guess.  That would be an argument in favor of
> C-x 8.)

You mean, you'll want C-x 8 to be able to insert any Unicode character?  
Or just some of them?  If the latter, which ones?

> Do you think a C-x 9 series of bindings, paralleling C-x 8 but in
> Latin-9 instead of Latin-1, would be useful?

If you agree that C-x 8 is deprecated, C-x 9 is a step in the wrong 
direction.

> (What about the poor Latin-2 folks, though?)

Why, C-x 10, of course ;-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-02 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-02 13:19 Insert Euro symbol Kai Großjohann
2002-05-02 13:30 ` Alan Shutko
2002-05-02 13:43   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-02 15:12     ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-05-02 15:33       ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-03 18:25   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-03 19:59     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-04 15:02       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-05  6:39         ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-06  6:24           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06 12:16             ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-07  4:58               ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  7:06                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-08 13:58                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  9:54           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-06 12:09             ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-05 23:18         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-02 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-02 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2002-05-02 20:17   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-03  6:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-03 10:48       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-04  6:06         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-05-04 11:52           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-05  5:34           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-05 11:52             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-06  6:24               ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-06  9:50                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-06 19:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  8:25                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-08 13:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-08 15:02                         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-09 14:59                           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-12 12:21                             ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-13 14:18                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-13 14:28                                 ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-14 19:41                                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-08 13:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07  9:12                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-03  9:52   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-03 10:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-03 11:24       ` Kai Großjohann

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