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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: init_buffer PWD fix
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:01:27 +0300 (IDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.1020422105409.11473Q@is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m31yd8dy8z.wl@omni-engine.com>


On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Keiichiro Nagano wrote:

> Cygwin sh (ash) is a lightweight Bourne shell, which does not
> update PWD even when it does chdir.  Child processes inherit
> environmental variables from their parent processes.  So when you
> invoke ash from bash, and do 'cd' in ash, then you have an old and now
> wrong PWD.

Thanks for the explanation.  But I still don't see how this would cause a 
specific failure in Emacs in some situation.  Can you describe such a 
specific failure, complete with the commands to type outside and inside 
Emacs, and with analysis of what happens inside init_buffer in that case?

> Same problems happen when you invoke command.com, cmd.exe,
> nmake.exe from the bash shell.

Since these programs ignore PWD, I don't see how can this do any harm.  
Again, a specific example will help.

> bash$ cd work			# chdir to work...
> bash$ printenv PWD		# and PWD is updated
> /home/work			# it's ok
> bash$ sh			# invoke sh (ash)...
> sh$ cd ..			# and chdir to /home...
> sh$ printenv PWD		# how about the PWD?
> /home/work			# Oh God!

Yes, I understand this much, but how does this affect Emacs?  You are 
suggesting a change in Emacs, not in Bash or ash.

The mere fact that "printenv PWD" prints a wrong directory is not in 
itself a problem, especially not a problem for Emacs.

> Same problems happen quite often when you 'make' Emacs Lisp products
> which have chdir in their 'Makefile's.

What practical Emacs-related problems happen in those cases?  Can you 
give an example of such a case, and describe the problems you have with 
the current Emacs code in that specific example? 

TIA

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-22  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-21 20:15 init_buffer PWD fix Keiichiro Nagano
2002-04-21 23:00 ` Keiichiro Nagano
2002-04-22  6:18 ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-22  7:20   ` Keiichiro Nagano
2002-04-22 11:15     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22 21:16     ` Jason Rumney
2002-04-22  7:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22  7:01     ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-22  8:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22  7:22         ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-22 11:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22 23:21             ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-23  6:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22 21:21         ` Jason Rumney
2002-04-23  5:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-23  6:14   ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-23 11:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 17:55       ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-24 18:14         ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-23 17:45     ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-24  6:52       ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24  7:13         ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-24  7:45           ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 11:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 10:30               ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 16:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 17:13                   ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 18:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 18:25                       ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 19:19                     ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-24 19:41                       ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 19:59                         ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 20:21                         ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-24 20:41                           ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 21:01                             ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-24 21:23                               ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 21:35                                 ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-25 22:52                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-25  3:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 16:47                 ` Paul Eggert
2002-04-24 17:55                   ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 10:38               ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 16:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 16:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24  7:55           ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 11:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 11:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-24 10:31           ` MIYASHITA Hisashi
2002-04-24 16:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22  7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-22  6:49   ` Keiichiro Nagano
2002-04-22  8:01     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2002-04-22  8:26       ` Keiichiro Nagano
2002-04-22 11:19         ` Eli Zaretskii

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