From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikhil Nair Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Windows Emacs and screen readers Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:55:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119995559 32532 80.91.229.2 (28 Jun 2005 21:52:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 28 23:52:36 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnNzy-0003tv-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:52:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnO7u-0006uN-0w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:00:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DnO5a-0006BX-9U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DnO5P-00066q-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:57:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnO5P-00066Z-HZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:57:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [82.68.100.206] (helo=dsl-212-23-31-41.zen.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DnO86-0003I9-0W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from nn201 by dsl-212-23-31-41.zen.co.uk with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1DnO3Z-000698-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:55:49 +0100 X-X-Sender: nn201@dsl-212-23-31-41.zen.co.uk Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39834 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39834 [I appreciate help-emacs-windows might have been the more proper place for this question; however, the archives indicate that previous discussion on the topic took place here.] Hi, I'm blind, and want to use emacs under Windows XP. I've tried different versions (NT Emacs 21.3 both GUI and under cmd.exe, and Cygwin emacs 21.2, which runs in console mode). With the two console-mode versions, I had some terminal emulation issues which stopped me using them fully, but those aren't emacs issues so I'll leave them for now. In the GUI version, I couldn't get JAWS (the screen reader I use - version 6.10) to recognise the cursor. I'd been told that JAWS needs a blinking bar cursor, so used blinking-cursor.el from wonderworks.com together with a setting for a bar cursor - but no luck. From a glance at w32term.c, I got the impression that emacs draws the cursor graphically, but doesn't use an ANSI character to represent the cursor, which I believe is what JAWS needs. However, I suspect I was reinventing the wheel, as I found some posts on this list from 3 years ago which talked about the use of the system caret, and JAWS working well with the GUI version; Ben Key of Freedom Scientific (who develop JAWS) seemed quite happy with the results. What I couldn't tell was whether this behaviour was in version 21.3, or whether I'd need a later development version; or whether I need to put something specific in my .emacs file (or on the command-line) in order to get this accessible behaviour. Could anyone give me a pointer or two? Cheers, Nikhil.