From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-l while in menu? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:42:44 +0200 (CEST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019564432 27785 127.0.0.1 (23 Apr 2002 12:20:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader , Ben Wing , Pavel =?iso-8859-1?q?Jan=EDk?= , Stefan Monnier , , Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16zzHc-0007E2-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:20:32 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16zzIn-0002fN-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:21:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zyjZ-0001fv-00; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16zyhD-0001CX-00; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:42:56 -0400 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3NBgiKg022623; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:42:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (jas@localhost) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.2/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g3NBgib2022620; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:42:44 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: yxa.extundo.com: jas owned process doing -bs Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3103 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3103 On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Ben Wing writes: > > > the fact is that things work quite well when you have only a meta key. > > > e.g. meta+letter is an accelerator only when such a menu exists; > > > otherwise, you get the regular binding -- and even then you can > > > retrieve the shadowed binding with shift+meta+letter. > > > > Do people really like this? > > I don't. One ``feature'' that particularly annoys me is that, as Ben > described, pressing Alt alone and then releasing it activates the menu > bar. So if I press Alt and then change my mind, I need to remember to > type ESC or something similar before I can type text again. That's a > real dumper on fast typing. In theory I agree, but after using KDE apps some time I find my self pressing ESC without thinking if I happen to press Alt and change my mind. KDE and Windows behave the same, but GNOME does not, so it is not easy to chose.