From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: CC loads CL - Is this still happening to anybody? Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:01:41 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: Reply-To: Alan Mackenzie NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146743847 22341 80.91.229.2 (4 May 2006 11:57:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 11:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-cc-mode@gnu.org, Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 04 13:57:20 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FbcS8-0004ri-Rd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 13:57:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FbcS8-0006f2-AT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FbcRx-0006cD-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FbcRu-0006bu-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FbcRu-0006br-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:56:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.149.49.134] (helo=acm.acm) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FbcST-0002t6-JB; Thu, 04 May 2006 07:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by acm.acm (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00690; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:01:42 GMT X-Sender: root@acm.acm Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53890 Archived-At: Hi, Emacs! For quite some time, people have been reporting that CC Mode loads the cl- libraries (cl-extra, cl-seq, ...) with no greater provocation than "M-x c-mode". I've just spent an entire wretched day trying to reproduce this, repeatedly byte-compiling the cc-files.el in different orders, continually restarting Emacs-22 -Q, and invoking my own God in my own way. I wasn't able to reproduce the problem. Yet, at the same time, I'm not convinced the problem has gone away - I don't truly, inwardly feel that it actually has gone away. It is like a Werewolf, lurking in the shadows waiting to pounce. I haven't tried rebuilding my Emacs from scratch, because this takes over 5 hours on my PC. However, I suspect that the building process has something to do with the bug. Would somebody who has recently built Emacs PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME: Has the building process actually produced the file .../lisp/progmodes/cc-fonts.elc? Is anybody still experiencing this problem (i.e. CC Mode causing cl- libraries to be loaded at run time)? A recipe for reproducing the bug would be welcome indeed. Thanks in advance for your answers! -- Alan.