From: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, eller.helmut@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MPS: weak hash tables
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:23:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <NlA2O1pppEKCljE1QYJNGb04DYrWauyZqaFGR3SaXEBB_8jWFIqfnRC9UHHfqpc06bNfelst9yVAKPYQmznPq11E5vDPxTbVld_P515IX3Y=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86le2f5874.fsf@gnu.org>
On Saturday, July 6th, 2024 at 06:46, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> Thanks, but why is this important or interesting? We are not going to
> add native threads to Emacs.
We do want other threads to be able to access MPS-managed memory, don't we?
And the bugs it has caught so far were actual bugs. I believe this is true even for the specpdl thing, though we could avoid that by trusting our thread data more.
> Also, AFAIU, MPS docs says to register each thread with it, and your
> code doesn't, AFAICT.
It needs to be registered as a root if it is one. This one isn't. It also needs to be able to be suspended, but on pthreads that's handled automatically.
You're correct, though, that it's possible this will crash on code that can't actually crash without the extra thread. We need to look at each crash and decide whether it is.
Pip
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2024-07-01 20:47 MPS: weak hash tables Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-01 21:16 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-01 23:10 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02 4:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 5:47 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 6:23 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02 6:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 9:15 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02 9:37 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 10:11 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 11:36 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 13:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 15:03 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02 15:17 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-02 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 16:34 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 20:16 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-03 6:30 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-03 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-03 11:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 11:23 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-03 6:11 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-03 6:33 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-03 7:04 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-03 7:24 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-03 7:25 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-03 7:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-03 8:26 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-03 9:31 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-03 10:22 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-03 10:41 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-03 11:17 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-03 20:20 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 7:17 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 15:24 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 16:53 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 20:05 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-05 3:50 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-05 12:08 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-05 12:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-05 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-05 20:35 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 6:31 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 7:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 9:13 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-05 18:14 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-05 19:25 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 3:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 5:58 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 6:20 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 6:29 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 6:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 9:23 ` Pip Cet [this message]
2024-07-06 11:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 3:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 9:47 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-06 10:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 13:50 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-06 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 14:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 16:20 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-06 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 16:48 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-06 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 17:59 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-06 18:14 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 11:37 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 11:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 11:57 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 12:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 12:23 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 12:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 12:43 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-06 12:36 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 14:00 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-06 14:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 14:24 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 14:44 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-06 14:52 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 15:49 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 16:31 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 16:56 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 17:28 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 17:31 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 18:30 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-06 20:00 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-06 20:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-07 3:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 4:27 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 4:30 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 6:38 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-07 7:31 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 7:44 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-07 8:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 8:24 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 8:47 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-07 9:24 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 9:26 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 11:19 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 14:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 14:52 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 15:36 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 17:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 18:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-07 18:29 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 14:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 14:18 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 10:57 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-07 11:35 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 11:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 14:07 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 14:21 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-07 14:27 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 15:22 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-07 15:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 15:52 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-07 15:56 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 15:57 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-07 16:26 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-07 17:03 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 18:40 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 18:53 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-07 19:00 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 19:31 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-07 19:36 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 9:11 ` MPS: commit limit Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-10 6:46 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-10 7:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-16 15:16 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-16 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-16 15:43 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-16 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-16 16:29 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-16 16:39 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-16 16:43 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-16 16:56 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-16 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-16 16:27 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-16 18:49 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-17 6:15 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-16 16:32 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-16 16:48 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-08 5:11 ` MPS: weak hash tables Pip Cet
2024-07-08 5:17 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 5:37 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-08 5:43 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-07 8:49 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 9:16 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-07-08 9:24 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 9:54 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-07-08 10:10 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 11:57 ` MPS: out-of-memory Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-08 13:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 16:45 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-08 18:26 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 19:44 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-09 3:58 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 18:27 ` Helmut Eller
2024-07-08 18:31 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-08 19:35 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-08 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-08 19:31 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 15:22 ` MPS: weak hash tables Helmut Eller
2024-07-04 15:33 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-04 16:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-04 16:43 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 13:50 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-07-02 6:57 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 7:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 8:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-02 8:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 9:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-02 9:35 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-02 11:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
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