From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Delegating user-reserved key binding space definition to users Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 10:01:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <877czikyfa.fsf@localhost> <87o7sthrwx.fsf@localhost> <83fse1nc9h.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3946"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, yantar92@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Psionic K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 10:02:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Iyp-0000ib-Sx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 10:02:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Iy6-0007zR-Jg; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 04:01:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Iy4-0007z0-C1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 04:01:25 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Ixz-0004gs-FX; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 04:01:24 -0500 Original-Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD0610600E8; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 09:01:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1669798868; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=ZIPZC72ZvIsfI3Y1upiAs42rVq3bnV6CRlUk/Y1/8UI=; b=bxZbA/n1j/1K9QUMufOW7TeCGOUpo/1IwAUJEoSjnPBm+M4RbgPhEoTBno5BRnZO e5XysXSRK8l+0yON5ItJ64qgECoke3yGcyf3fYAUpH28BcETsNaroLkShjdl/MsUUmI Daz23hk1VxKw0I8qMW8MUSy8SqXeeeIwUYUxGEvUiDdJM1/izs+tA8HWYEMAHZMzDAq wL0uKJ3HNfaRY6eQtapVbe2ItYZACZyGewYad1ctX/SoVlOIhC5jz0b7Ims8OPQPve9 oHNhhsyrGNtZ60PpcsVZnLz/d0Gon1u3kqxbqdCiEKvqpCWurc47/XxAMj4+ZeulvuT zFuyt/WJbw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300754 Archived-At: Nov 30, 2022, 06:23 by psionik@positron.solutions: > > =C2=A0 (local-set-key ?\M-n #'magit-section-next) > > This is a good edge case solution.=C2=A0 It is not a good solution for mo= ving or removing bindings coherently across all current and future modes. > > ... > Eli does have some rigid expectation as to how things should be, and instead of making these explicit would rather toy with askers over piece by piece mails like this.=C2=A0 I suggest to save time stop poking around how things are done in defaults and write something brand-new like transient.el then similarly send it for inclusion in Emacs.