From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Delegating user-reserved key binding space definition to users Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:53:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <57b69c22e167d429d21bb969feb22887@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <87zgcfaewq.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9633"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Psionic K , Emacs developers To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 25 14:54:32 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oyZ9z-0002G0-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2022 14:54:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyZ9M-0005wL-OM; Fri, 25 Nov 2022 08:53:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyZ9J-0005tk-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2022 08:53:50 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oyZ9H-00053F-Ph for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2022 08:53:49 -0500 Original-Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42DD1060171; Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1669384422; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=b/tCnk9vXGWCqBtmOzd/4RzPqLBNw1QWNXMEuQ3fwmo=; b=b0Qe8QsWWi0RMpRm/hV+aRLRrDNuXRyNwP88P+rcNvwz47ytehNxICVnEdKzOA86 y8tIK0SFc3tdjchjEB4+otK/aGCigPSZ8MufvW7q9l24qxOnPazOMACJvvr2415NkDO 6ihQpzVZmZcq+KUQQidrHqkJle/kOLF6e/X1NyWyJ2+oHUTFCbUU4+mzFqnHkr6k9Wh 2IPcNz4fLxVZpX3yQk7wLPOeAfAozvSiu7QOg27FcbyzEeTrB34QhLlQbrVWRjEl0ic WnB7Zf6lgUKyzqb/dNcQ4+zbIn32Y+zDZOPXliJyFWkKxKRt9KDOqt3+bvT7QaSfY2c 59Rf+NxFjQ== In-Reply-To: <87zgcfaewq.fsf@localhost> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:300481 Archived-At: Nov 25, 2022, 03:31 by yantar92@posteo.net: > Psionic K writes: > >> Abstract commands are just command remap targets in the global map. The >> concrete global commands would directly command remap in the global map. >> Abstract command bindings would be consumed when modes generate keymaps = for >> major & minor modes. A Corfu map generator would for example see an >> abstract command like "user-next" bound with the C-n sequence and choose= to >> shadow C-n in its map. If the user rebinds the global abstract command, >> the other modes could easily follow this change, perhaps even though a h= ook >> to immediately propagate the change. >> > > +1 > > Anyone who tried to re-bind default bindings for, say, C-n/C-p/n/p might > be familiar what the problem with current Emacs approach is. It is very > annoying to keep tweaking every single package bindings out there and > also deal with cascading key collisions. > > --=20 > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode contributor, > Learn more about Org mode at . > Support Org development at , > or support my work at <> https://liberapay.com/yantar92> > > Easy to configure key bindings?=C2=A0 Ugh who needs that, the bindings are already perfect.=C2=A0 Emacs -Q is the supreme experience created in the vein as a physics experiment colliding as many things as possible, so everything has to be optimized for it's out of box magnificence!