From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding use-package to core Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:32:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <838rkels13.fsf@gnu.org-NGltIw7----9> <83wn7yk4df.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11582"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 02:24:55 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oukh5-0002n5-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 02:24:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouir8-0004LC-TX; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouihF-0004o9-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:16:57 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouWlr-0003DX-NA; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 05:32:57 -0500 Original-Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF8A1060277; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:32:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1668421973; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=ihtzSaukpUDw0pTS3c2w/d7uJiab+mGsMYL953TMNwE=; b=zM0V03/HysZHc4JNI88ZIOYLcdb2zlrhH0YcdNqNNT0Hg2tUuPhRoRPkqOVcKl7X ltVjzOaxVyiYO7cXHYG3mVRQoOJUHKFKKPDJ2b3cqttMlbwhp4gWR5VjhRkDYoAdoiC rnGWMew/+r2SHqYLDqeqp7vyYDGq3FA2lvTV/NiXIqPRUIXLeUDWvQRK0MQHV5PcnZS agHYMJHXbScdPi2UpsqcjV9Y9c6DDrBVQHqz3vUALbS1Kf1svkDMe2KMpO93Niu9WIx uEpzI3O+X/VUE+NJ3IpWRnDjub7ViTQZIGqoT06oTD90dBw0VvCMgg/C3dWfgJkrbpP s6JzHcFyYg== In-Reply-To: <83wn7yk4df.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299814 Archived-At: Nov 13, 2022, 20:04 by eliz@gnu.org: >> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:02:16 +0100 (CET) >> From: xenodasein@tutanota.de >> Cc: "xenodasein--- viaEmacs development discussions." , >> Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com >> >> You said this can be fixed, of course but wouldn't it be much >> easier to do without fighting backwards compatibility issues of >> core code? >> > > Why would maintaining use-package in core present more > backward-compatibility issues than when it's maintained outside? > Same reason emacs-devel is not responsible for every single line of Elisp code on the Internet?=C2=A0 External packages seem to get more love from their developers.=C2=A0 If not, something new replaces them, people migrate, and nobody complains to Emacs bug list about it.