From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: axel.junker@Safe-mail.net Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: terminal emulation Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:43:42 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307047628 31829 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2011 20:47:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:47:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 02 22:47:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSEnH-0006iW-Te for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 22:47:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSEnH-000233-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:47:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSCsB-0005Vu-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:44:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSCs9-0006va-8k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from tamar.safe-mail.net ([213.8.161.229]:50320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QSCs8-0006vC-Pp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: by tamar.safe-mail.net with Safe-mail (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1QSCrv-0000AR-0a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:43:43 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=N1-0105; d=Safe-mail.net; b=1mHWvQ5FS8Ir0xRpMxuWWbbgXUoy+LKpqOovAbojgOVaTnxMcUc7nJha5WgzHUqq 8UUFapR1dP8Bl7vDtKiHiwyqYd3YFNX9AVpg1/Sn6vXrL9PqAfPmFrOIpdWm4kWq RYoBJWbyHeP/UKcM23dGxG0uhTToZ7wwu4APekfZjqM=; Original-Received: from pc ([93.185.109.191]) by Safe-mail.net with https X-SMType: Regular X-SMRef: N1B-EhmVthwwo5 X-SMSignature: i0VAkk7fHDdGnaAkhWvIk4/AKm+K7ll3e09KNPY3gebs+JNIBCvc0mCeA+CQ0oT8 K8JaAuHJsLhdETxwOcwfbBQ6QJiPZwerk3lDkEfn7G4p7h/n4/GCrx2mzJUSe3k3 jdu2U/GJ5qnXjOLfIYuZi/UrqPhOLQdjWpRjc+EYFYc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 213.8.161.229 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:40:13 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140096 Archived-At: I am using GNU Emacs as the environment for all my daily computing tasks on = my GNU Linux system. So far I am really content with what Emacs already provides = - Gnus, org-mode, Dired, shell-mode, etc. There is just one thing that is bugging = me. Ocasionally I have to fall back to an external terminal emulator (e.g. = gnome-terminal) to run ncursed based applications like aptitude. Is there any = way to run such applications from within emacs? shell-mode obviously does not = work, and both M-x term and M-x terminal-emulator are broken. (Try aptitude = in either one of them). In particular, I would like to have a terminal emulator that is a real emulator = without any nitty gritty. That is, any key press is directly forwarded to the = underlying terminal, except for one escape character (e.g. C-c). Does that make sense? Is there any interest in patching term to support that? -- Axel