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Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:23:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <871r1jm4hf.fsf@gmail.com> <8735lupwt1.fsf@gmail.com> <878rvmmq1h.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22218"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, mathias@mnet-mail.de To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 11 16:24:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7J0z-0005Yb-OX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:24:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47770 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7J0y-0002Vw-DI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:24:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7IzU-0007wk-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:23:16 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:43356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7IzS-00077p-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:23:15 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED729106029E; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:23:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641914592; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=LJF+xKHxtx85QOBKVIpl1MVgPOGyc+4M0YLsDr9YUg0=; b=fC3I0nmi6P+LauBo6yZrof3fgJlVrQqQwsslTsReMjH7tbkiUMY4M/YmNyrmdqAB F2JkpOlwslfQYGLNSgiDybxOqmDWhiZ0gbXTTz51N9VqTkgUHddI0jEK1OQMLCK6ci3 KvTGxrUFiONELdvwUn53LBgiYgFT/gLi2o9IWd0/qpLysInLDlVqMdZwfahhBWwGpC5 si50NXKhK6KbOkYVNfZH2+A9E1POAQFfBUfFJPhBNWSPEbobLRo0r7EUakxlVMBrteS 5dIgl2IJeHSKrNwISUPMX9ubNsHqEDSue75uRCHVRyJLMCOKkU9m8kH3Fq24yGzHwGv 3hhD3IeVfw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284611 Archived-At: Jan 11, 2022, 17:40 by tomas@tuxteam.de: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 03:23:50PM +0100, Mathias Megyei wrote: > >> On 1/11/22 1:42 PM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: >> > > [...] > >> > Now this is not only unwarranted, but also unnecessary. The debate is >> > already difficult as it is, so please, don't do that. >> >=20 >> > Cheers >> >> [I delibaretaly removed emacs-devel, I don't want to contribute to >> non-technical discussion there. But I want to express my support for >> xenodasein. No need to reply to this email.] >> > > My mail wasn't about the position, but about the personal attack. This > is unnecessary. > >> I have the same impression as xenodasein regarding the "helpfulness" of = the >> emails from Po Lu. >> >> Xenodasein, I hope and wish that you manage to overcome the destructive >> effect of Po Lu's emails and remain active on emacs-devel. Maybe you cou= ld >> just stop answering his emails and ask for the opinion of other develope= rs >> like Eli, Stefan M., Lars ... >> > > This is just destructive behaviour. I don't know why you are doing this. > > Bye > --=20 > tom=C3=A1s > It is not a refined response sure, but unnecessary and unwarranted? I don't know.=C2=A0 I could just ignore but how is it better?=C2=A0 Ignorin= g is simple enough, but it helps no one and there is no self-growth. I see zero effort from the other party to correct these misunderstandings, that is why my tone gets worse.=C2=A0 If this is too disrupting and things won't change, I hereby stop responding to Po Lu unless it is about something undeniable concrete a as patch, and I want them to do the same.