From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 15:48:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <87lezrvyfx.fsf@yahoo.com> <878rvqwosg.fsf@yahoo.com> <874k6ewkb4.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgo6v1ll.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36804"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 08 15:48:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n6D1T-0009So-LT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 15:48:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53520 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6D1S-0003oZ-IP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 09:48:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43732) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6D0r-00038L-Om for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 09:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:38974) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6D0q-00086T-Bd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 09:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA21D1060235; Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:48:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641653286; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=LNx1izUDGlsPraYyxoDIYY8gg/UBl86Ul6Z5CjeBunk=; b=spBVeO3eqpqyZrKs1Oe7/oKOsYQY737C685pVfl41P7SfTRqW/a/KhL9CE6ICQIw i1NdRRnKSHsDA66BsZ6MuVvfWbgXF3+c7h3ixn5ZIlWUEgg2vNO3OUXQg26peQp//cw rd2hdHJGQrQxRlwLfhDM2h3BsNyySd/i4cQDe23JBBcnjh3HiJWNASTvrZj00XzckLX 6C3lBRTnsDlRPzFdri8f5XL+S+M9WGs6doZMmGDee022h3S/3p/EEp5dFGhuQ9pFynq yGthYxxUOj4nGDJLmQuAl7+jasWJWxw9M2vy5KAlNEw/orNCtH+BXYwbaFhbmF1TnKV x0rXjCE3iw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284471 Archived-At: Jan 8, 2022, 17:28 by tomas@tuxteam.de: > On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 01:59:37PM +0100, xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions. wrote: > >> Jan 8, 2022, 15:44 by luangruo@yahoo.com: >> >> > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." >> > writes: >> > >> >> Not changing an established default can be a sign of stagnation. >> >> >> > >> > That statement is wrong. >> > >> >> Above statement is wrong. >> > > Let's agree on "both statements can be wrong"? > > I think xenodasein's characterization sufficiently careful in this case: > "can be a sign of...". That means that it isn't a sure sign. More > evidence would be necessary to reach a clear conclusion. We seem to > agree, after all? > > Peace :-) > > Cheers > -- > t > 1+