From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:24:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <87lezrvyfx.fsf@yahoo.com> <878rvqwosg.fsf@yahoo.com> <874k6ewkb4.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgo6v1ll.fsf@yahoo.com> <87v8yuv03a.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14168"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: luangruo@yahoo.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 08 14:26:51 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n6BkB-0003XI-4i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 14:26:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45798 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6Bk9-0000Om-Nd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 08:26:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58016) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6Bi3-0007jk-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 08:24:39 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:47834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6Bi2-0002sX-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 08:24:39 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F89510602DE; Sat, 8 Jan 2022 13:24:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641648276; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=j5Owg3E8Xr1ua9d69QmZ2Egny9czcySPPPNJ9Yd9ZfA=; b=IV5QH/wbVNGZD32KKL6RLWmqRr/BvhWjJGLut4HgVs7nMzo5avqcxXuuFS0NhZm5 +/rR3auDFZ2as9gVKzBvzY/JKfIn9KQ9PmALzJ7kh+Wbaom2JqxXfMuVS7Q7U2CNqVT xwK1pOXWBHQyLu1nmBQAFJ0Ble/cnQ1OJeygIX6ITIqkbTfc4lOiQfMooSV3sVmJL5M f54afV0uptoKJoY0NfM9pgWLaNgwFvKrCLNLIv/7WcZ4BNRN/KB33X7Wf4ZEuPBHEW8 3ozmrDlP4OZQPvC/P74uhP7Q5jxY5QNIpQdvgY7+ZITEaSdmMA2uvsWtrJK+re+zSP/ jJtRoHvT8A== In-Reply-To: <87v8yuv03a.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284461 Archived-At: Jan 8, 2022, 16:16 by luangruo@yahoo.com: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >> Now if it takes all that for one variable, how many will it take for >> nontrivial changes? >> > > Let me name several nontrivial changes from the past 24 hours that > gained less than 100 replies: > > - XIM pre-edit text support > - Native GTK input support > - Using auth-info-password in TRAMP > - rcirc-when > > The difference between Drew's proposal and the others is that his > proposal will make for a breaking change. IMO, breaking changes must be > avoided to the best of everyone's ability, in order to minimize the > disruption posed to the work and lives of many people. > > Also, take a look at Emacs 29 NEWS, to see how many nontrivial changes > have been made in Emacs from October to now. > This is plain know-it-all-ery.=C2=A0 Not cool.=C2=A0 You know we are talkin= g about breaking changes.=C2=A0 We know it is better to avoid breaking changes, until you can't.