From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 13:59:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <87a6g8yql2.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lezrvyfx.fsf@yahoo.com> <878rvqwosg.fsf@yahoo.com> <874k6ewkb4.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgo6v1ll.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15102"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: luangruo@yahoo.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 08 14:00:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n6BL0-0003fQ-Dt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 14:00:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35690 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6BKy-0006K1-NN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 08:00:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6BJt-0005I7-Az for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 07:59:41 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:43012) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6BJr-0007Km-Q3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 07:59:41 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F364A1060277; Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:59:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641646777; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=6Ne/hz/6HLdlE2d0FgKLYwbWAG29Ts0SZfjF1fF3I9I=; b=NcVT/yrdOVTfJl4wXVMxMB88s1v7J1JUPXqJbzpLbmXkRH1pGxtAkunRuvcdKrMZ fVmbezC8jRkPD03AYcg7fdbDVxJzfLuTNqa2ANbmr3DGEK2aoSAnz+bsmOJCHOWXr93 7R1096Gpp884/y4pLEbryRk3A99nPe3orD6y2pV6Jk40in80X0xquhSQVPonRiC8+e/ wKHa4UJGnu8qkmNrapislcqEtbR0bgZnQ45mBdSZc+v7Grofs8GuS7zyEv/bbvHSPDb osJDE/fvjs7yz9f530na9PgBnXikGYlBnvvF5I9jByRL37xRLddGr/kp1UVQNVHaD53 +d4ulCCvoA== In-Reply-To: <87zgo6v1ll.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284459 Archived-At: Jan 8, 2022, 15:44 by luangruo@yahoo.com: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >> Not changing an established default can be a sign of stagnation. >> > > That statement is wrong. > Above statement is wrong. >> Then read what has been discussed. >> > > I did, care to point out anything I might've missed? > TIA. > Hopefully you will forgive me as I don't have the energy to reanalyze and paraphrase everything that has been said so far in favor of changing the default.=C2=A0 I can say this much; how many mails are there, 50, 100?=C2=A0 Now if it takes all that for one variable, how many will it take for nontrivial changes?