From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 13:35:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <87mtk8ywye.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6g8yql2.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lezrvyfx.fsf@yahoo.com> <878rvqwosg.fsf@yahoo.com> <874k6ewkb4.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25109"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: luangruo@yahoo.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 08 13:37:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n6Ay0-0006Ht-1F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 13:37:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56748 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6Axy-0006Bm-2H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 07:37:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6Awi-0005Rg-J8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 07:35:44 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:36682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n6Awh-0004D9-44 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 07:35:44 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9341060158; Sat, 8 Jan 2022 12:35:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641645339; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=NKQNkHGL8Yz8iI3Nt1T4tQmyih3qX03keiprMYg7MZ0=; b=mNJaqD0P75a0T866skMPZj4Y9t/hMv/ARoGJGnEFC7bh7XWVKDR3r3MQz7agcm0p +ZvIqUG7LstMXum+JsceJjilbHqk+K/gqwYOcMuVOUE+LtO2aBI9PNfgYMX9INPs01m YWUy7Ajde+4W7ob+WawenJgz58RqtJe+uOB8POwqhn/YXzcOOTRPnFeIX/VL6htBLMa udIG+FYfJqGCQ9Z1Seen/to7laShSTQBsemoD3ysPOppftVTtJvAZgKSLSsgKstfH5y xSwpKmXxtDGOMPMCvOUmFc3LKNZDVe197qsbW5lmvrJ2IDY7viTrMUcwBgKKkfY2sGz SiTooucwRg== In-Reply-To: <874k6ewkb4.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284457 Archived-At: Jan 8, 2022, 14:14 by luangruo@yahoo.com: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >> I wouldn't call, opposing to setting a handful of variables every >> couple of years to disable new developments and instead stagnating >> your favorite libre editor into oblivion, civilized. >> > > Nothing is "stagnating". Not changing an established default is not > "stagnating". > Everything is stagnatin'.=C2=A0 :) Not changing an established default can be a sign of stagnation. >> If it is that painful to make Customize use its own data file >> > > It already can via `custom-file', which see. > >> what hope would there be to make big improvements to it? >> > > I don't see how not changing the default value of custom-file conflicts > with making actual improvements to custom. > Then read what has been discussed.