Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA

[xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>]

Jan 8, 2022, 14:42 by tomas@tuxteam.de:

> On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 11:39:04AM +0100, xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions. wrote:
>
>> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
>>
>
> [...]
>
>> >> You are overlooking something important: our community is (compared to
>> >> others) pretty civilised [...]
>>
>> I wouldn't call, opposing to setting a handful of variables every
>> couple of years to disable new developments and instead stagnating
>> your favorite libre editor into oblivion, civilized.
>>
>> If it is that painful to make Customize use its own data file, what
>> hope would there be to make big improvements to it?
>>
>
> I may very well be wrong (this is not a rhethoric device, but just age:
> I've been wrong more times than I can count!), but I perceive your
> position as extreme.
>
> The opposition is not there "to disable new developments". It's usually
> there because some people (it's not /always the same/ people!) don't
> like a change.
>
> Surely some discussion is in order to either convince those people or to
> redesign the change in a way that it hopefully makes people happy?
>
> Cheers
> -- 
> t
>

Agreed, I came out as too extreme as to where things are, but I believe
things are at least leaning that way.

Discussion is great, especially when opinions are more amenable to
movement.  We must know how much inconvenience to users is too much
and adjust, as we can't avoid it completely.  Freedom always comes at
a cost, and that cost is involvement.

Cheers.