From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 11:39:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <878rvs1i5a.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtk8ywye.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6g8yql2.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lezrvyfx.fsf@yahoo.com> <878rvqwosg.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36950"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 08 11:39:52 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n698Z-0009Ro-Ie for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 11:39:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46984 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n698Y-0005Vu-JD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 05:39:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n697t-0004px-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 05:39:09 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:37198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n697s-0003pA-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2022 05:39:09 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDE8106026C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2022 10:39:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641638344; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=G5Wu5EiSYjE/iEAzQtYA5cx3s34Xjiuwl7jgjldQEt4=; b=fqRevePX+vmUK9mU06FPvE2mf+7jtHXDTnqItVoBnbkfVEK+AEQadthiKwn6nJYg nymjwhD4J+lK5sIp4LQmdv76NX4WQEi/QWkfLhY1nqAY/ghMW+cbJDW3ap1u5y1W4dv 0noM46ewf41PvBM0hgb25e48qOMS0Bht5nBPV1BmrBc4MF1MrOpl6WLIA0gFfoQuUVi b307Ji4S2/XCxE33hOrQjmPswJYFickOwNBnAukppr/5Qd/QB7VCH6hWKNBNhbfJ2JW JP9Kys3LoMW5fKz7UKRvo0rJCNAUVThnKUr+wpR7sSOaivT8uyCGQSjmsYCkICY6nwA CR+ErYbocQ== In-Reply-To: <878rvqwosg.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284453 Archived-At: writes: >>> They turned it off. End of story. Some >>> muffled grumbles, nothing more. Why? >>> Because you can still use Emacs as before - >>> just turn `t-m-mode' off (Customize). >>> Happy campers all around. >>> >> You are overlooking something important: our community is (compared to >> others) pretty civilised. Idiosyncratic, yes, but civilised. The >> maintainers are highly respected people (at least among most old >> timers, and this /is/ an important part of our community). So once a >> decision has been reached, each one tries to get along with it. >> I wouldn't call, opposing to setting a handful of variables every couple of years to disable new developments and instead stagnating your favorite libre editor into oblivion, civilized. If it is that painful to make Customize use its own data file, what hope would there be to make big improvements to it?