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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284033 Archived-At: Jan 3, 2022, 15:32 by luangruo@yahoo.com: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >> I did give you one pointer for a detailed explanation of the problem, wh= ich >> you ignore, and declare me delusional instead, who's seen that coming. >> > > I did not declare you delusional, please stop attributing words to me > that I did not say. And no, "Stefan M said it on StackOverflow once" is > not a useful pointer in any way; it's about as useful as "it's on the > internet somewhere". > It means that I do have an explanation for the problem, and stop acting as if I am lying or something.=C2=A0 If you are unable to find it and inter= ested in more details, what you should have done is to ask me for the full article instead of continuing the harassment campaign.=C2=A0 Here's an example of a normal answer you should have given: "I am working on Customize, and would appreciate your time if you can provide the whole article, not just a pointer to internet, and maybe additional comments instead." >> I deem unnecessary to give *YOU* a more detailed explanation >> > > You haven't given anyone such an explanation, so you shouldn't be using > it as an excuse to not use custom inside a setup wizard, because it > doesn't help anyone if none of us can reproduce your problems. > > Also, either way, if custom has bugs that prevents its use in a setup > wizard, they should be fixed, instead of making the situation worse by > neglecting to use custom at all. > > Thanks. > Now you are expanding the issue, and asking for how autoload problem directly affects the new wizard package, whereas my original mail was only about defaults of custom-file, and your answer was about setq.=C2=A0 With deflections like these, it is easy to doubt someone's intentions, so don't = blame me.