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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284019 Archived-At: Jan 3, 2022, 13:53 by luangruo@yahoo.com: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >> I can't know someone's intentions only what is written here, so please >> you too try to choose not only better words, but a purpose to argument. >> > > I try to the best of my ability to use optimal wording, but I'm hardly a > native speaker (nor are most of us on emacs-devel.) > > So when you think a person is being hostile, it is better to give him > the benefit of the doubt. I assure you that I will _never_ be > deliberately hostile to someone on this list. > There is a line.=C2=A0 When you act in some ways, it is beyond assumption. Maybe you do it by mistake, as a second language thing, then you should work on it and fix it, because it is not normal.=C2=A0 I think you are gett= ing some leeway because of your contributions, considering someone was banned for less. > And please do be specific. > I do, when asked for, or when I deem necessary.=C2=A0 Please do read before writing back, or ask what you need to to know without the gaslighting. Jan 3, 2022, 13:10 by luangruo@yahoo.com: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." <> emacs-devel@gnu.org= > > writes: > First of all, no, I was not trying to gaslight you. > ... > Secondly, `setq' will have the exact same problems with autoloads that > custom-set-variables will have, and both have very little real problems > with autoloads. > ... > For example here, again see you are belittling other people 's experiences by saying "have very little real problems," without anything to measure the degree of a problem.=C2=A0 According to what?=C2=A0 We are not trying to la= nd on the moon.=C2=A0 You do this to any non-regular mailer here, and it is very disc= ouraging and harmful for new members.