From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: FW: [External] : Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 09:19:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <834k6mdu7q.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8z12ud8.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13514"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Sean Whitton , Drew Adams , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 09:19:56 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4IZP-0003Gx-OZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:19:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51228 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4IZN-0008M0-Ts for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 03:19:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4IYg-0007Zv-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 03:19:10 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:59376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4IYe-0004Th-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 03:19:10 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C58C106019A; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 08:19:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641197945; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=QQ0gRbPtw0oKMxt9D4kViDNNhBcR7CQo7RIr28XMTI8=; b=kt6Js9NqndXFWhfvfBkVOBrlV/ANb3FzWXUk071+t5h3RuxJeUeNLR4vCL2k1+kC KSZvwjkdtH5ruTcpcg+DLGgzyP/jLsGWNOsgArqu+cIW3yfP4iGTx2gBLP7s+eb/fdH HCxY0rynJDFGJOlmp4WrE5njdyL5YS/Vjtu/ZXBmgEauBbxmvzL+RPJAHKGOQw0pNA6 thdAP5LvgA4YYkja1zgYRRgNwhOCE5KXCl87mwDuitAmpMq+l/bF4qqTdpeoQAtXNPw bg6HDY3CScdprt1VZVfarJUdmELrxL0T233K9bxCw4Dllt/r9LtCQmYwK0FiBOB2ecu 44O9KHYBCg== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284004 Archived-At: Jan 3, 2022, 10:02 by stefankangas@gmail.com: > Sean Whitton writes: > >> On Sun 02 Jan 2022 at 05:14pm -05, Stefan Kangas wrote: >> >>> Drew Adams writes: >>> >>>> Customize should not write to your init file ... That's a bad Emacs >>>> design choice, IMO. It especially should not be the default behavior. >>>> >>> >>> +1, FWIW. >>> >> >> Hmm, then where should it write to? >> > > IMO, something like > > (setq custom-file (locate-user-emacs-file "custom-file.el")) > I'd prefer the current behavior TBH, because the real issue is not where it= is written, it is when it's read. Currently it is easy to place custom-set-var= iables where you want either inside init file or to place it into another file.=C2= =A0 Timing is important, because Customize also has problems with autoloads, and who knows what else.