From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:02:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <87zgoeo91m.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6geo4h8.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735m6o349.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33529"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: eduardoochs@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 02 12:03:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n3yeO-0008Yz-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2022 12:03:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34678 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3yeM-0000jh-DY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2022 06:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3ydJ-0008Q7-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2022 06:02:37 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:41312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n3ydH-0004dO-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2022 06:02:37 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688BF10601E7; Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:02:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641121354; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=GQhdjNiymePRimB7d5bfNObJ5vdPiNeqDclBPWIxwRA=; b=bJcbScmjx1gK4t4gp6yOxkmuMvZcvT3sEdM6Y+eZq7gSO9mxP94FkIsCMFHIFMW+ Q/C0n2bCFI/rdexsoJixT7EgpDfZEwIGPTtRqsXUhkpa74RkOWSkLcKACcn3dRo2dZP NNjff+HPvwxjf0W+MyKuYyRQc565c/tIEMRqqNAEFlx0ouMUrwGAxP+irM/kPaLhAwx OosNvpDPsmQkd1MFP7eihELBCY4zeAjsgbR51Bsrdvtu8lvvZ2DXYmDzm0Vyl3VP9sp sdoSxL+idppVyv09GL0A/S93M2aFkJSzanhJhnqFu8APTy2WgWZUdUBGDMR3L7ru7r7 ungLmjYYsw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283882 Archived-At: Jan 2, 2022, 13:51 by eduardoochs@gmail.com: > Hi! > Thanks for your last two paragraphs! > I knew that we were talking about two different notions of simplicity on = the list, but I didn't have examples that were better than, for example, co= mparing a button to a setq... and you gave an example that was very precise= ! =3D) > =C2=A0 E. > =C2=A0 Hi, thank you.=C2=A0 I meant to say "customize-set-variable" on that mail.= =C2=A0 Which is what is suggested for singular custom variables but it is a very heavy func= tion that goes over themes, and slows down initialization noticeably when used instead of setq. And this is what people use as a workaround: `(funcall (or (get ',variable 'custom-set) 'set-default) ',variable ,value)= )