From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 08:34:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <83zgoopkwb.fsf@gnu.org> <874k6wsajh.fsf@posteo.net> <87o8536fry.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lf07hn0z.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36288"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: luangruo@yahoo.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 26 08:36:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n1O4X-0009BS-FO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2021 08:36:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39262 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n1O4V-0005N0-Ma for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2021 02:35:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n1O30-0003V6-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2021 02:34:26 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:46446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n1O2p-0001zU-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2021 02:34:26 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D3E10602C4; Sun, 26 Dec 2021 07:34:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1640504051; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=xhHObv0W08xeF1EmpdO5ekR4QDwOnEMjC12Pbgg1xy8=; b=AJ4t1uacSfT7UYLISjBbX/Si5Q8xOrfdcxxNbS/T9LHMRGEpv5iBNG5APuEfscv4 6yJv8WkYqAIpReBNJNgBPz3NKj4AT89oIrGWOg/SvKsK2kfmJ5vPOYQmjuSAdyzRj7t KQ0D1h0BTes6/NwegdyNfvKQNKm4+ggzyttxboYF2XjQt0dedKCdgy6hO/a/mXZpXLP 5viNQfnYFDO/Yc9HT/44x8sctN7PcGLFsKgN+qQQjAo/K8AI+zT8FaVMm9w/jvJ+RET TA1GYt0yIZ4FHgOGDwXbmtct/crCrs8k4Jf9RW1PiaH69yUUor/DdWLgl4N2zO97NZ4 L/u5hS6qrg== In-Reply-To: <87lf07hn0z.fsf@localhost> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283262 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > IIRC the whole concept of straight.el is based around pulling packages > off individual authors' repositories. > I don't think that's what we want to do in Emacs. For example, one such > package provides integration with Apple's dis-service Siri and its > proprietary client shipped with macOS. > Apart from installing packages in such a haphazard fashion, I really > don't see what else straight.el does better than package.el. Dec 26, 2021, 09:56 by yantar92@gmail.com: > I do see some advantages: > 1. Ability to review actual changes (commits) made in a package since > last update > 2. Ability to maintain a personal set of patches/changes to a package > while still being able to update to the latest version. Or to automate building and installing multiple local repositories.=C2=A0 O= r many other things that makes straight.el one of the most popular packages of all time. Emacs can be used to write proprietary malware.=C2=A0 From that logic, we should also stop developing Emacs then.