From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development Speed Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 16:49:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <87v8zk5d7t.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lf0f1vko.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19127"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs Devel To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 20 19:21:58 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mzNIM-0004jI-2X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 19:21:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50760 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzNIK-0006DC-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 13:21:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzKvB-0007wq-2s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:49:53 -0500 Original-Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:60356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzKv8-00040g-5q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:49:52 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1453FBF691; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 15:49:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1640015381; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=gs74KMy4HllOeIU3cVbbSGzchk3yj3J0i5uIp5qfVaA=; b=c4S/0Nq5/GmMysuFhREoiIU0SH96nTLCkB6MEHENEenYrQ+FuqXyoHYIFoIimixx b+7BPFqerLbthOR09g/1VH1MgcBpDrj+aVJtadWpFEmB6jMM01RQIYysuYS9JkTMyAk 2iv1b95FQTJzKIVFp+PGRPd+pEkGwIJdi4BCfnBR20k8cXGB/FDGOq5oZS3MsmxNsCc mzRh8/F5nAmkN3AAj5AfVqVjBqla6dM6EhHGOOjqRvt0ra6iq7GlxRU6t2xhyJvuXI8 HoD6u/ojtP8Giri0EeFPTl7yMrLoOcSfZy0xtbbtEgSDvvaLPot8FE5R7nmsXAjkVAo 6tsx00hTgA== In-Reply-To: <87lf0f1vko.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.162; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w1.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282529 Archived-At: Quoting: list-was-down? From: Po Lu Date: - > I looked at neovim, and in fact, I tried to use it for around a year and > half, and my typical response to these questions is "let's wait for > neovim to grow as old as Emacs, and see what happens to it". > Neovim is IMO still very immature: for example, it still doesn't have > the ability to open multiple frames or display images and multiple fonts > in single window, which is a limitation shared with Vim, a relatively > unsophisticated editor. I completely agree, what I refer to is modularity of it's GUI, on that fron= t it is better, on anything else it is as you said. > Most of what you read in a modern software engineering book doesn't > apply to Emacs. Not to mention that those books tend to be discredited > as often as psychology books, which is a rather ominous sign. I mean, there has to be something more to all that research other than just "Yo, it's like, psychology, man." > Nobody running a modern GNU/Linux system will realistically suffer the > deficiencies of such a platform. Care to list some? Anything that will have been caused by not using latest the C?=C2=A0 Could = mean more bugs, less features...=C2=A0 M-x butterfly